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Latest post 06-30-2007 9:29 AM by Goldfrog88. 17 replies.
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  • 06-02-2007 5:55 AM

    Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Do you prefer Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    There are good examples / opinions concerning this two products ? Which shoud i buy ?

     

    Pedro "Less is more"

    BV7-40 MKII + BL7.2 + BL9 + BL3 + BS4 + BL4 + A9 + Earset 2 + 2 x Beo4 + BeoCom 5

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  • 06-02-2007 9:09 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Flappo posted the best review I've read to date of the AppleTV. It confirmed my opinion that I'll be getting a MacMini, since I can then also play media discs.

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/05/24/some_time_spent_with_apple_tv____an_in_depth_review.html

  • 06-02-2007 9:59 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Soundproof,

    I'm surrended to the Mac Mini; please do see this review:

    http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/16/apple-tv-vs-mac-mini-which-one-is-right-for-you/

    HTH. 

    Pedro "Less is more"

    BV7-40 MKII + BL7.2 + BL9 + BL3 + BS4 + BL4 + A9 + Earset 2 + 2 x Beo4 + BeoCom 5

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  • 06-02-2007 10:29 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Though to be fair to the AppleTV. It's an inexpensively priced unit intended to tie all your harddisk stored AV sources together through wireless, and the intention is that one would get an AppleTV for each flatscreen. The AppleTVs can then "talk" with the Mac Mini or other storage devices (computers, NADs, etc).

    It's just that I also want the ability to play CDs and DVDs - and the Mac Mini gives me that. 

  • 06-02-2007 11:57 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    The only reason not to use a mini mac in my opinion is if you are on a budget or if you want the itunes synchronization feature.

    With that 40GB HD that it originally had the device did not make any sense to me. The Mini can be turned into a full media serve by adding external hard drives. The only pain really is to sync up more then 1 itunes library, even though there are tools for that.

    Also B&O control is possible with it. For the ITV we only heard it would be supported by B&O in future, not sure though if they can pull this off, especialy for fast scrolling. Apple is using a funny IR model I believe.

    JK

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 06-02-2007 11:59 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    One more thing, I wouldn't be surprised if we see an upgraded Mac Mini over the next 12 month that becomes more of a media center, i.e. it runs without keyboard and can be fed from an itunes library just like ITV or Ipod.

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 06-02-2007 12:13 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    jk1002:
    One more thing, I wouldn't be surprised if we see an upgraded Mac Mini over the next 12 month that becomes more of a media center, i.e. it runs without keyboard and can be fed from an itunes library just like ITV or Ipod.

    Yes, and very likely with HDMI out. 

  • 06-02-2007 12:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    jk1002:
    One more thing, I wouldn't be surprised if we see an upgraded Mac Mini over the next 12 month that becomes more of a media center, i.e. it runs without keyboard and can be fed from an itunes library just like ITV or Ipod.
    Mac Mini To Be Discontinued?


    http://www.macrumors.com/2007/05/24/mac-mini-to-be-discontinued/
  • 06-02-2007 4:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    I saw that one. It might be they discontinue the mini as we know it but do some sort of upgrade to make it more media center like ... that they leave that tiny computer segment open entirely I would not think ......

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 06-02-2007 5:03 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    jk1002:
    I saw that one. It might be they discontinue the mini as we know it but do some sort of upgrade to make it more media center like ... that they leave that tiny computer segment open entirely I would not think ......

    It really depends on where they are going with the Macs - particularly the portable ones. I am using a MacBook Pro as a media center now, and it does all I need. I've seen rumours they'll be offering a Media Center version of the Mini, based on the Intel media center chip...

    But then rumours are cheap!
     

  • 06-03-2007 7:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Geez. I'd better wait a while and see what happens.

    Still, the Mac mini has what it takes to be in the living room connected to my BV7-40; i also have a Lacie 1TB external, so it would be just a perfect match.

    Thinking ... Confused

    Pedro "Less is more"

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  • 06-03-2007 8:07 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    I'll be really sorry to see the mini go.  I had planned to buy one as a bedroom media centre combined with the BC6-26, but not sure what to do now as I'm about 12 months away from doing that after we move house!!
  • 06-03-2007 8:36 AM In reply to

    • Philippe
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    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    I have an Intel Mac Mini acting as a media center with my BV6-26, and I'm absolutely thrilled with it! (I even rarely use now my BS9000 : that's a sign...). So easy to use, to switch on/off, etc...

    I switch to Speakers 4 and then the party can begin! And I just discovered a few days ago that 'A-PC' on the Beo4 mutes the screen (if needed).

    Philippe

     

  • 06-03-2007 9:04 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    Philippe:

    I have an Intel Mac Mini acting as a media center with my BV6-26, and I'm absolutely thrilled with it! (I even rarely use now my BS9000 : that's a sign...). So easy to use, to switch on/off, etc...

    I switch to Speakers 4 and then the party can begin! And I just discovered a few days ago that 'A-PC' on the Beo4 mutes the screen (if needed).

    Philippe

     

    Philippe,

    How did you connect your Apple mini to the BV ?

    As i could see we only need a dvi-to-dvi to connect to the BV and a optical (minijack) to optical to connect to the BV right?

    Does the BV auto-detects it ?

    TIA. 

    Pedro "Less is more"

    BV7-40 MKII + BL7.2 + BL9 + BL3 + BS4 + BL4 + A9 + Earset 2 + 2 x Beo4 + BeoCom 5

  • 06-03-2007 9:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    >>Geez. I'd better wait a while and see what happens.<<

    Monday in a week is macworld. Steve Jobs will do a keynote which means some sort of product launch. YEs he will talk Iphone and Leopard but I am also expecting some sort of upgrades ...... Even if they cancel the mini you would still find in in the market for a bit .....

    jk

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  • 06-03-2007 11:52 AM In reply to

    • Philippe
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    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    pedrompinto:

    Philippe,

    How did you connect your Apple mini to the BV ?

    As i could see we only need a dvi-to-dvi to connect to the BV and a optical (minijack) to optical to connect to the BV right?

    Does the BV auto-detects it ?

    TIA. 

    Yep, the Mac Mini is connected via a DVI-DVI cable to my BV6 and I run a minijack stereo cable to the sound input on my BV6. The only difference with your set-up is that my BV6 is "constrained", because if you connect a PC, you can't couple its video signal to a digital sound input (it's only a stereo minijack input on the BV6), so I just can get stereo sound instead of 5.1 but I found that using Speaker 5 with a stereo sound was OK anyway, so no big deal...

    Owning a BV7, you won't have this constraint because you can couple your DVI video input to any digital input of your choice (connectiosn menu) and you'll basically need an optical to coax input (cause I'm not sure you have an optical input on your BV7). If I'm mistaken and you do happen to have an optical input, you'll just need an optical-optical cable, as you stated.

    As for the detection, no problem at all : press 'PC' on the Beo4, and get ready to enjoy Apple's Frontrow interface with hours of music, videos, well whatever comes to your mind! ;-)

    BTW, Pedro, do you happen to be portuguese as well?

    Edit : Christ, am I dumb or still a bit drunk (came home from a wedding last night with only a couple of hours of sleep)... Just came to notice you live in Portugal, Lisbon, so you sure are portuguese!

    Philippe (Moreira)

  • 06-30-2007 9:24 AM In reply to

    • Goldfrog88
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    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    The first point is the price, Apple TV is about a third of the price of a good Mac mini.

    Secondly, software. I had a mini connected via DVI, it could play iTunes, iPhoto and, of course, VLC and Safari. Apple TV doesn't have a direct Internet browser yet, although Apple seem to be improving its capabilities bit by bit (as evidenced by YouTube's recent addition and the tantalising USB socket). 

    The third point is that you can't run BeoLink on an Apple TV as it has no software loading GUI (unless hacked!) but you can run BeoLink on a mini using BeoPort with an attached IR eye---but this can only be controlled from that IR eye, not from another room. You set up beoLink to receive commands as PC, or L-PC accordingly.

    Fourthly, of perhaps minor interest, is that Apple TV can be fed from a Mac or a PC. 

    Lastly, make sure you buy a 160GB Apple TV (if you choose to buy one that is). You'll need the HD space unless you intend to stream most of your TV shows and movies. May I also recommend an Elgato Turbo.264 accelerator stick on your main Mac to speedily turn your AVI files into MP4 or Apple TV-playable files via iTunes. 

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  • 06-30-2007 9:29 AM In reply to

    • Goldfrog88
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    Re: Apple TV or Mac mini ?

    What am I saying, not BeoLink, BM Link on the Mac
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