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Latest post 10-26-2011 2:44 PM by Oakley. 25 replies.
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  • 02-08-2009 11:15 AM

    Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Jacob (Weebyx) and myself are pleased to announce that the Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator version 1.1.0 is now available for download to silver and gold members HERE

    This version has a pull down to define the version of firmware loaded in the Beo5. It supports the current version 1.40a which is only available with version 2.20 of the Beo5 Configuration Tool and the previous firmware version.

    Below is a screen shoot showing the updated area.

    Regards Keith....

  • 02-08-2009 11:46 AM In reply to

    • Spiros
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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Congratulations to both of you. What more can I say than a big BRAVO!!!!!!!

    Keep on the good work!

    Best regards

    Spiros

  • 02-08-2009 12:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Thank You very much, Keith and Jacob for the work you both are doing here.

    Best regards

    Quim

  • 02-09-2009 4:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hi Keith & Weebyx,

    Thanks a lot for all the time you put into this!

    Cheers,
    Frank

  • 02-09-2009 6:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Let me say right away, I can't afford the Beosound 5 and am not technically knowledgable enough to understand this thread. However, what I can't understand also is why this work is neccessary when surely B&O should be providing this, especially for such an expensive product!

    Now feel free to beat me down!

  • 02-09-2009 7:32 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    kokomo:

    Let me say right away, I can't afford the Beosound 5 and am not technically knowledgable enough to understand this thread. However, what I can't understand also is why this work is neccessary when surely B&O should be providing this, especially for such an expensive product!

    Now feel free to beat me down!

    In this case Beo5 is the handheld remote controller not BeoSound5 (BS5) Big Smile

    Frank

  • 02-09-2009 7:51 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hi Keith,

    I just tested the tool just now and it does also fix the issue with the long pauses that I had previously, so no more manuals edits for these Cool. Bravo!

    Frank

  • 02-09-2009 9:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    beo4me:

    kokomo:

    Let me say right away, I can't afford the Beosound 5 and am not technically knowledgable enough to understand this thread. However, what I can't understand also is why this work is neccessary when surely B&O should be providing this, especially for such an expensive product!

    Now feel free to beat me down!

    In this case Beo5 is the handheld remote controller not BeoSound5 (BS5) Big Smile

    Frank

     

    Thanks Frank, that's one thing I did understand. I meant the Beo5! Same point though!

    Wink

     

  • 02-12-2009 9:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hi!

    Can you please give a free link to the new manual like you did with version 1.0?

    I would like to read it before I buy.

     

    Thanks in advance!

  • 02-12-2009 9:52 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    The new help guide with version 1.1.0 is exactly the same as the previous version except it shows a picture as shown on the first posting of this thread where two pull downs have been added to select the firmware being used and the carrier frequency of the infra-red signal to the third party device

    Regards Keith....

  • 05-12-2009 12:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Jacob (Weebyx) and I are pleased to announce the availability of "Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Version 1.1.0.1"

    This version has been introduced to allow members to use the new version of Lintronic software released by them on 3rd April 2009.

    This version will detect both old and new versions of the Lintronic output and if you wish to add text files created from the new Lintronic software into a directory with existing files, then that's no problem. The program will check each file to determine which format has been saved.

    Silver and Gold Members can download the new version from the Beoworld site HERE

    Regards Keith....

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  • 05-15-2009 12:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Is there any chance of more screen shots. I'd like to have an idea how easy this is to use, i'm a bit of a dummy, and screen shots would hopefully give some explanation of what level of knowledge is required.

    Regards

    H1

  • 05-15-2009 1:30 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Anyone can download the help file HERE

    This help file contains screen shots and full instructions

    Regards Keith....

  • 05-28-2009 4:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hello Keith,

    I do not quite understand that you have not contacted me when developing this excellent program, to ensure future compatability.
    Example: There is a minor issue reading the format when I enhanced the timing control.

    Furthermore we could make use of the thousands of products already in our database.
    I would be more than happy to cooperate.

    Furthermore I think the program should be available to everybody.
    It could be integrated into the Configurator.

    Rgds,
    Michael Lindgaard.

  • 06-19-2010 6:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hi

    Is there a help file for the Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator. Im new to this and trying to find out how to connect my Philips LCD TV and Samsung HDR to my Beo5.

    Brg.

    Martin

  • 06-20-2010 3:59 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Martin,

    You can find the help file HERE

    Regards Keith....

  • 10-11-2011 2:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Hi.

     

    I just bought a Beo5 to get rid of all remotes that I have.

    Samsung Plasma

    Thomson IPTV

    Boxee Box

    Sonos-system (problably not able to remote this as it not using IR at all).

     

    I bought the silver membership to get your wonderful tool.... buuuuuut... the helpfile isnt working for me.

    Im kinda in the dark now. Cheers!

     

    edit: got it to work.. time to learn some new stuff :)

  • 10-13-2011 11:16 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    The XML Converter Tool found on Beoworld only converts Lintronics timing codes to RAW encoding in the XML file meaning that some functions may not function 100% as original. However, you can use other facilities such as "Bitstream" which will provide you with almost 100% perfect results.

    The main exceptions mostly relate to Philips protocol such as RC6 because they toggle bit 3 of the IR sequence for each press of the same button.

    The older Philips RC5 protocol which also toggles bit 3 of the IR sequence is fully supported in the Beo5/6 firmware and works well. The 3rd party XML tool found on Beoworld can convert known RC5 address and command codes into a working XML file.

    Regards Keith....

  • 10-18-2011 2:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Ok.

     

    Im trying your tool now, but its giving me a hard time.

    Found a older version of the Lintronic config tool to convert the Pronto hex to your tool.

    For this im trying to set up my IP-TV box... 

     

    Doing a lintronic device file named "THOMSON, STB, IPTV" and its containing this.

     

    0=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    1=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    2=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    3=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    4=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    5=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573016930057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    6=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    7=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    8=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    9=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    BACK=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    DOWN=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730057300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    GUIDE=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057301693005730057300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    LEFT=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    NEXT=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    OK=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057301693005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    POWER=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    PREVIOUS=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    RETURN=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    RIGHT=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730169300573005730057300573005730057300573016930057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    UP=F0038R0003090400450700573005730057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573016930057300573005730057300573016930057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573005730057301693005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730057300573005730169300573005730057301693005730169300573016930057301693005734400609040022660057397626

    When trying to import this into your tool it crashes.


  • 10-18-2011 2:57 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    These commands are neither Pronto HEX codes or Lintronics Timing codes.

    If you have the Pronto codes, then just post those and I will convert them for you.

    Regards Keith....

  • 10-19-2011 4:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Keith Saunders:

    These commands are neither Pronto HEX codes or Lintronics Timing codes.

    If you have the Pronto codes, then just post those and I will convert them for you.

     

    Strange.

     

    I can show you the steps I did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74OoTMZrLc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

     

    Here is the code page I used, witch I belived was Philips RAW

    http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.34.22.00/Ir-codes-to-beo.xls.zip

     

     

  • 10-23-2011 10:09 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    Keith, could you please check what im doing wrong?

    If I could just add that you should change the description on your 3rd Party XML tool that the Lintronic software can not be used any more.

  • 10-23-2011 10:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    I have had a look at your video and I can see where you are getting confused.

    The Beoworld XML Converter takes the Lintronic captured timings and converts them into a useable XML file. The converter cannot translate a Pronto HEX as found on Remote Central. The data you got from the Lintronics program is not a waveform timing.

    If you look at the Beoworld XML Converter help file you will see that the captured (i.e. assumes you have a Lintronics box) Lintronic timings are in the form as shown below:-

    Pulse, Pause in micro-seconds
    00493 ( 37 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 684 ( 52 )
    00249 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 440 ( 34 )
    00252 ( 19 ) 00533 ( 41 )  = 785 ( 60 )
    00242 ( 19 ) 00367 ( 27 )  = 609 ( 46 )
    00241 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 432 ( 34 )
    00252 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 443 ( 34 )
    00251 ( 19 ) 00533 ( 41 )  = 784 ( 60 )
    00243 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 434 ( 34 )
    00250 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 441 ( 34 )
    00252 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 443 ( 34 )
    00251 ( 19 ) 00533 ( 41 )  = 784 ( 60 )
    00267 ( 21 ) 00342 ( 25 )  = 609 ( 46 )
    00242 ( 19 ) 00533 ( 41 )  = 775 ( 60 )
    00243 ( 19 ) 00365 ( 27 )  = 608 ( 46 )
    00243 ( 19 ) 00367 ( 27 )  = 610 ( 46 )
    00241 ( 19 ) 00701 ( 53 )  = 942 ( 72 )
    00242 ( 19 ) 00191 ( 15 )  = 433 ( 34 )
    00251 ( 19 ) 24376 ( 1853 )  = 24627 ( 1872 )

    It is this data that the Beoworld XML Converter uses.

    If I look into your Excel file I see the Pronto codes which can be converted to the timing format noted above.

    The first one in your list is for the ON key for a Samsung PS507705 and the HEX pronto code shown is:-

    0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AC 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0689

    Converting this Pronto HEX code for ON gives you a timing string as follows:-

    04472,04472 = 8944
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,00546 = 1092
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,01664 = 2210
    00546,00546 = 1092

    If you were now to put the above timing string into a text file and say call it ON and use it with the Beoworld XML Converter you will have an XML file which will then work.

    Regards Keith....

  • 10-23-2011 11:14 AM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    I have taken the pronto HEX codes you supplied in your Excel file for the Samsung PS507705 and made an XML file for you to test.

    You can download it from HERE

    Extract the ZIP file to C:\ and the file will be automatically added to the correct directory in the Configuration Tool

    I looked at the IR protocol that these codes produce and it is not any protocol I have seen before, so if it does not work then we can assume that the Pronto HEX codes you found on the www.remotecentral.com web site are not correct.

    Regards Keith....

  • 10-23-2011 4:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Announcing Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator Verison 1.1.0 is now available

    That makes so mutch more sense now :)

    When parsing the timings to a new text file just naming it on.txt off.txt hdm1.txt etc. and then pointing your tools to the directory worked.

    The XML you tried with the PS507705 did not work. But I will send you a working XML when im done with it (found a pronto ccf file that had working ir-codes).

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