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Latest post 01-11-2009 9:45 PM by TripEnglish. 22 replies.
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  • 01-10-2009 1:49 PM

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    This will be hard to beat!!

  • 01-10-2009 2:26 PM In reply to

    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    thinner, thinner, thin, thi, th, t,         .....

    eventually on the end everithing will disapier .............. Smile 

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  • 01-10-2009 2:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    And it's a plasma!  I would have guessed that only a LCD or OLED could be made this thin (granted, 54" OLEDs are a little hard to come by).

    Mark D
  • 01-10-2009 3:52 PM In reply to

    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Oh I don't think the thickness of plasmas of lcds matter that much. I see many people put their plasmas/lcds in some big consoles or on some big supports which really defeats the purpose of having such thin tvs. Besides, does the thickness matter that much when those tvs only occupy the maximum of 15cm when mounted on walls? I think it is kinda gimmicky so I think B&O really made a good choice by integrating quality speakers and picture processors into their tvs despite the added bulk.
  • 01-10-2009 4:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Looks great.

    Also the separate connection box is a good solution.

    Curious how good the wireless transfer between the box and screen works.

    Bieele 

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  • 01-10-2009 7:23 PM In reply to

    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Does look great no doubt but I am with electric on this one. No need for a 1 inch screen for me, it represents nothing exciting or practical. B&O still has the design edge, and that's what I am buying in to. Just me...

    Simon.

  • 01-11-2009 3:33 AM In reply to

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    The_Beonic_Man:

    Does look great no doubt but I am with electric on this one. No need for a 1 inch screen for me, it represents nothing exciting or practical. B&O still has the design edge, and that's what I am buying in to. Just me...

    Simon.

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  • 01-11-2009 4:24 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    I actually like it, will make it very hard to improve on this,literally you can hang it on the wall like a picture here is another picture/article

    http://www.dvhardware.net/article32501.html

  • 01-11-2009 4:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Very boring IMO. I wouldn't want one that thin - where do the speakers go?

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  • 01-11-2009 4:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Alex:

    Very boring IMO. I wouldn't want one that thin - where do the speakers go?

    where the speakers go on bv4????!

  • 01-11-2009 6:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Underneath, as a BeoLab 7-1 or 7-2.

    A decent speaker underneath this Panasonic would look awful.

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  • 01-11-2009 7:05 AM In reply to

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    I agree, to my mind there is no speaker this thin that produces the quality of sound required.

    Carl Sheerman

  • 01-11-2009 8:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Credit where credit is due - it is quite an achievement. I wonder how many would be quite so dismissive had it been B&O that had announced a 1" thick plasma with full HD wireless transmission.

     

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-11-2009 9:48 AM In reply to

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    I think that we'd have many of the complaints that we currently have (though a few might swoon!) I think that we've been looking for more flexible and practical options from B&O. I can't think of a single instance where we've criticized the thickness of a product since the BeoSystem 1! 

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 01-11-2009 10:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    TripEnglish:
    I think that we'd have many of the complaints that we currently have (though a few might swoon!) I think that we've been looking for more flexible and practical options from B&O. I can't think of a single instance where we've criticized the thickness of a product since the BeoSystem 1! 

    Are you saying that if a 1" thick BV4 with HD wireless transmission from the BS3 was to be announced you honestly think there'd be little interest on this site?

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-11-2009 10:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    We might be all surprised b&o will adopt this panel for bv4!!!!!Surprise

  • 01-11-2009 10:21 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Puncher:

    TripEnglish:
    I think that we'd have many of the complaints that we currently have (though a few might swoon!) I think that we've been looking for more flexible and practical options from B&O. I can't think of a single instance where we've criticized the thickness of a product since the BeoSystem 1! 

    Are you saying that if a 1" thick BV4 with HD wireless transmission from the BS3 was to be announced you honestly think there'd be little interest on this site?

    There would be, but only if they also announced a 1" thick BeoLab 7, Automatic Colour Management, good design and performance at least as good as the current offerings.

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  • 01-11-2009 10:23 AM In reply to

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    I think there would be interest, but I would guess only about 20% positive. I can't be anything but highly skeptical about wireless transmission, especially HD. 

    The thickness thing, to me, is neither here nor there. It tells me we've reached about as good a picture as we're going to get so what else can we change to get people to buy more stuff. 

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 01-11-2009 10:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    All this makes the Beovision 8 so looking from 1980ties. The BV8 is nearly as thick as a CRT TV. , 21cm  No - thumbs down
  • 01-11-2009 11:14 AM In reply to

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    Re: This will be hard to beat!!

    Well it seems to matter to B&O who point out -

    ".................... BeoVision 4 is remarkably slim on the wall. The slender profile is accentuated .........."

    As for the wireless thing, there an awful lot of TV manufacturers releasing wireless TV's for you to be sceptical about.

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-11-2009 11:34 AM In reply to

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    Puncher:

    As for the wireless thing, there an awful lot of TV manufacturers releasing wireless TV's for you to be sceptical about.

    I remember the days when all TV's were wireless Stick out tongue

    Seriously, I'd expect thin displays like this gain a lot of market with setups/people who don't have or want to have a  home theatre setup with any kind of center speaker. From what I've looked around, accurately 97.6% of people have nothing connected to their flat screen TVs, but happily listen to the abysmal built-in rattle boxes and try to make sense of the dialogue.

    But first, people will have to get rid of the furniture ideas that are still stuck in the CRT ages. When the flat TV's came out, everybody was calling them "painting TV's" in Finnish (bad translation, but implies art hanging on the wall). Still nobody gets it - the flats are sitting on stands on the same old shelfs. A lot of space may be saved, but it's hard to keep anything behind the TV, and you sure can't keep anything in front of it, either...

    I'm not without fault, either. I personally would feel awkward staring at a wall, even if there's a moving image on it. I need a TV with substance.

    -mika

  • 01-11-2009 5:59 PM In reply to

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    Well you can't get much better than a projected image if its slimline and pictures on walls the general market wants. I am not the general market, which is why I invest in B&O.

    Simon.

  • 01-11-2009 9:45 PM In reply to

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    I will gladly be skeptical about lots of things instead of a few things. If there being a lot of something was all it took for it to be good, light beer would taste better! It's all down to the buying public "wanting" something without knowing the implication. I have to reboot my $500 wireless router at lease twice a month. My iPhone gets crap reception all over the place. I can think of very few wireless devices that don't frustrate me on a regular basis. I see no reason to add to this list for the sake of shear novelty.

    And our website is utter crap, so you can't go quoting it!  

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

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