Is it worth to buy a new BeoVision 9 modell without a camera and HDR recorder for 14.000,-€? My dealer has one on stock to sell.

Has the BeoVision 9 modell without a camera the same screen as the new modells with camera? What do you think about BeoVision 9 in general?

Would you ruther wait and buy a BeoVision 7 40'' with blu ray player that will be on sale in spring next year? For me it doesn't make a difference 40'' or 50''.

I would have the BV9 any time rather than the BV7. If it is the full HD version, it is a superb set - I might try for a bit more off though! He will have problems selling it!

Hi Peter, thank you for the answer. Can you tell me which type nr. are full HD?

Any with Type number 9720 or above is full HD  - that is the Mk2. They are however up to the Mk 4! The Mk1 is still excellent though - I would have one with pleasure!!

Peter as BV9 is about 123 kg heavy, how can this set be transported? Perhaps BV7 40'' with blu ray is a better solution, what do you think. I will build a new house in 1-2 years time and to transport BV9 there could make troubles?

Does BV7 40'' also incorporate BeoSystem 3? Which features does BV9 have more than BV7 40''? Only bigger screen?

What about BV7 55'' when will this TV be released? This could be an alternative to heavy BV9.

I think you underestimate the weight of the BV7-40. There's no way I could move it. Even shifting it a few inches, with a mate, was a major hassle. A 55" version will require three people to move it and will be bigger than the BV9! Besides, there's no guarantee or plans for a 50"+ version at this stage. Watching standard definition TV on a 50"+ would be awful.

please can someone tell me what you all mean with "camera" in the BeoVision 9?? 

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please can someone tell me what you all mean with "camera" in the BeoVision 9?? 

Automatic Colour Management, a unique system that compensates for any effects of aging on the screen. A tiny built-in camera arm appears periodically to check and adjust the screen. You can even activate it manually if you feel the need to adjust the colour balance.

thank you Dave! is it similar to the "eye" of the AV 9000??

No, it is a tiny mechanical arm that swings down from the centre of the top of the panel and it reads the screen, then swings back up behind the frame where it can no longer be seen. The "eye" from the AV9000 is present on these TV's though (and has been since the BV5). Which monitors light conditions, contains the I.R. receiver and the st.by indicator...

If i had the choice i would go for the BV9 with out a shadow of a doubt. I personally don't like the image an LCD screen produces, albeit bang and olufsen quality, the plasma displays are closer to reality in the way colours and movement are displayed (CRT being closer again). 

I wouldn't get too caught up in 720, 1080, camera etc etc.  I have a 720p non-camera 'leper' BeoVision 9 and frankly it's absolutely amazing.  The difference between the 720 and 1080 panels is minimal and nowhere near as dramatic as people like to wax lyrical about. Do Sky transmit in 1080 ? - nope...  

If you can grab a great deal on a 720p BV9, go for it - i guarantee you will be absolutely delighted with it.  Mine is the best B&O purchase i have ever made, and i don't heap praise lightly.

Lee

 

9 LEE:

I wouldn't get too caught up in 720, 1080, camera etc etc.  I have a 720p non-camera 'leper' BeoVision 9 and frankly it's absolutely amazing.  The difference between the 720 and 1080 panels is minimal and nowhere near as dramatic as people like to wax lyrical about. Do Sky transmit in 1080 ? - nope...  

If you can grab a great deal on a 720p BV9, go for it - i guarantee you will be absolutely delighted with it.  Mine is the best B&O purchase i have ever made, and i don't heap praise lightly.

Lee

 

A 720p panel may well be best if one's viewing is confined to SD material,but surely downscaling BD would be a waste of it's inherently superior PQ?

Not at all Terry,

 The BeoSystem 3 video processor which resides in the BV-9 does an excellent job of handling the re-scaling of 1080p sources down to 720p.  

Frankly, even on screen sizes as large as 65" I find it terribly difficult to tell the difference between 180 and 720...at normal viewing distances.  Don't avoid a great deal on a BV-9 based on the 720p screen. 

But does the BV6 40'' also incorporate a BeoSystem 3? I think a new full HD BV7 40'' with blu ray player colud be an alternative to BV9 50''. It is not as heavy as BV9 and can be put together from parts (screen, stand, speaker) and is therefore much easier to transport, oposit to BV9 which I think needs 2-3 people to move.

So my thinking goes this way: buy a BV9 50'' without a camera or for the same money next year BV 7 40'' with blu ray player. What would you do if yo also know I have to move from my apartment in a 1-2 years time and so have to move a TV set.

I would have the BV9 and an external Blu-ray player which no doubt will work with a Beo5. As far as moving the set, that is what removal men are paid for! And insured for! The BV9 is just the best set you can get. Best B&O picture and a stunning design. Not that enthused about the BV7 or LCD sets in general. In my opinion, no contest.

I'm with Peter and Lee here - the 720p BV9 is simply awesome in every respect, and knocks spots off the BV7-40 picture-wise. Also, myself and a 62 year old man moved Lee's BV9, and it wasn't any trouble whatsoever. The set has inbuilt handles at the rear, and the weight spread between two is not a problem in my experience.

Lee is wearing well - I would never have guessed!

Regular trips to health spas and a new procedure from Switzerland have preserved his complexion!

What are the technical enhancements regarding a Beovision 9 MK I vs. the latest version MK IV?

So far I learned that starting with MK II, the Beovision 9 is "Full HD".
But what are the additional features / changes to MK III and MK IV?

I have to be honest and say that I really don't notice much of a difference between the 7-40 Mark III picture quality and the BV9 (whatever version number) at all. I can imagine so many of you at this point of reading thinking . o O ( Well of course he's going to say that because he bought the BV7-40! ) Yes I did, but believe me, I really wouldn't say it unless I meant it. I always loved the BV5. Nothing has changed as I still do, very much, especially the HD version.

The BV9 does have a lovely picture, no denying that, but I was always put off by the acoustic lens from a design point of view - and it is design that sells B&O to me over function - so I went for the BV7-40 Mark III. Please note that my preference would always have been a BV5 because of its iconic design but B&O decided to discontinue the model and instead came up with the BV9, which I didn't like nearly as much. I was in the Bath dealership last week and I compared the two pictures of the same Blue Planet (non-HD) DVD playing on a BV9 and a BV7-40. There really was no noticebale difference and in fact, to my own amazement, I actually prefered the LCD version on the BV7. The colours seemed much more realistic.

I never ever thought I'd say that because I have always believed plasma to be a superior technology. I still do, but I am not going to say that the BV7 produces any lesser quality picture when it doesn't. Can't explain it, perhaps its the BeoSystem 3 who knows? But don't discount the BV7. I didn't, I bought one, and it is a great set. HD viewing is quite spectacular. It is true that SD quality is not great and I am sure a BV9 in this area would knock spots on the BV7 but in terms of future boradcasts, one must ask the inevetable question... 

Simon.

The_Beonic_Man:

I have to be honest and say that I really don't notice much of a difference between the 7-40 Mark III picture quality and the BV9 (whatever version number) at all.

There is definitely a difference. The colours on the BV7-40 MKIII are less 'red' than the BV9 when compared together. I prefer the tones on the BV7. As you say Simon, more realistic.

However, the BV9 is more CRT-like and smooths the picture more effectively. Some excellent HD programmes look too pin-point perfect on the BV7-40 MKIII. You can see all detail - too much. Sky Sports HD looks better on the BV9 than the BV7, as an example.

Yes you are right about the smoother picture, I do agree with that as I recall thinking that last time I saw it. On the whole though, give the difference in prices between the two, I personally wouldn't be persuaded to part with that amount of money for a difference that I don't think is significant enough, at least to me. I only wish that B&O had created a plasma BV7-40, that would have been fantastic. Nevermind.

Simon.