BeoVision 7 (32, a priori) will be available without DVD. This one becomes an option. All the products s' articulating goshawks d' BeoSystem 3 will have their TNTHD in the next few weeks. L' upgrade BlueRay is envisaged in the months which come for the 40 and 32. Upgrade of the readers integrated from the 40 FullHD (one does not know for the 32). BeoVision 8 returns in our regions d' here a few days. The great innovation is the presentation of BeoCom 5 and BeoSound 5. BeoCom 5 is thus the new telephone whose main feature is d' to have a support of table with high integrated speaker (in option). The compound functions goshawks d' a base PSTN. BeoSound 5 put completely allured. Very class, luminous screen, navigation system by 3 wheels, system of restitution and management of the particularly thorough sound… BeoSound 5 s' articulate goshawks of l' interface reading in itself and of BeoMaster 5 which gathers the hard drive of 500Go, Wifi connection, Ethernet, MasterLink… The software will be updated directly at the time of the upgrades, in connection with the waiters of B& O Denmark. Compatible Itunes, covers list etc… Function Net Radio and Playlist intelligent. 2 new colors for BeoSound 1: chestnut (!) and orange. Here, quickly for the products.

 

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/1/137339/ShowThread.aspx 

 

Maybe someone has a better translation. We pretty much heard it all before. 

 

 

Thanks for the translation JK, glad to hear of the iTunes integration with BS5! Can't wait to actually see it in the flesh and make a judgement of it, seems like we've been discussing it for years online!

I'm afraid I dropped studying French for Spanish in school so can't offer any other help with the translation! Apologies!

Robert. 

Looking forward to a worldwide chain of B&O restaurants, as the "waiters of B&O" start doing their magic. Looked at the original French and saw it should be "serveurs" servers of B&O.

I have tried to translate/summarise what was said on the French forum, it all sounds great to me:

-Earset 2: New colours: White, Orange, Green, and one or 2 more...

-New iPhone compatible Earset 3

-103' Beovision4 (250+150 Kg!)

-Beovision 8-40 with Full HD screen and HD DVB-T tuner, March 2009. New Matching Stand and Furniture.

-Beocom 2: now in shiny polished Aluminium. Colours: Yellow, Black, Blue, Red, Grey, Aluminium and Mat White.

-BeoLab 9, 3, 2, 5, 4000 , 3500, 6000, 8000 and 4: Available in white. Aluminium parts will not be white.

-Beovision 6 and 7: White back.

-Beosound 9000: White (limited edition)

- Beovision 7-32: Can be ordered without DVD player.

- All Beosystem 3 based products will be fitted with HD DVB-T tuners

- BlueRay players will be available for BV-7 32 and BV-7 40. Can be retrofitted in Full HD BV-7.

- BV8 will be available in France in a few days (meaning that it will fitted with a DVB-T tuner)

- Beosound 5: Navigation with 3 wheels, very nice design, very luminous screen, advanced sound management. The Beomaster 5 has a 500 Gb hard drive  and is fitted with Wifi, Ethernet and Masterlink. Software upgrades are pushed by B&O. iTunes compatible. Cover art display. Net radio, Intelligent playlists.

- Beosound 1: New colours: Brown and Orange.

- Beocom 5  has an Hourglass shape, it does not look like the Bc 4 or Bc 6000. The table charger is small - half the handset size. The table speaker is round, in aluminium, about the size of a CD. Flat on top, round underneath, with a table stand in the style of the Beocenter 2. You activate the speaker by placing the handset on the speaker base. It is compatible with BC2 and BC6000 PSTN base. It is compatible with VoIP, has a colour screen, nice ringtones similar to the Beocom 2. Will be a bit more expensive than the BC6000.

-BC6000 will still be produced.

- The new CEO is impressive and has given new hope for the future. 

- Beoworld.org was mentioned and a Beo5 thread was shown to the audiance to pitch the new simpler Beo configuration software.

wow i was JUST thinking today how nice an orange B&O product would be... nice! Yes i'm liking the sounds of these new changes, and also the demise of products like serene and beosound 6 - THANK goodness we are getting back on track! (even though i love my serene)

Some interesting new stuff. I wonder how the BL5's or BL9's will look in white. I have an all-white living room and sometimes wonder if I should buy larger speakers that will 'blend' in to the background. I'll consider the option.

If they are fitting a Blu-ray option in to the BV7-40, then I wonder how they're going to handle the audio formats from the internal Blu-ray drive. 355f - that's one for you to consider :)

I read the news in the French forum also and learned a few words.  I had to lookup sablier for the description of the Beocom 5.  How often does one talk about an hour glass?  The new phone does sound interesting.

I was especially glad to read that iTunes is supported in the Beosound 5.  Without iTunes, I wouldn't have considered BS5.

Maybe the sheep will tell us more now that we have most of the product news.

 However I should mention with the exception of the Beosound 5 and the addition of Blu-ray to BV7, this is all mostly cosmetic changes.  I guess it will be a "White Christmas" after all. 

There are a lot of cosmetic changes, which is welcome. White is a very fashionable colour in decoration at the moment.

But there new products, Beocom 5, Beosound 5 & Beomaster 5, Earset 3, and the changes to existing Beovisions are significant: availability of BluRay players, New TV sizes and new TV chassis with built in HD DVB-T tuners are a much welcome addition.

B&O is obviously trying to address most criticism: old technology for very high price. 

Compare a 2007 BV7-40 with a 2009 BV7-40 and you'll see that what I mean: Full HD, Integrated BS3, DVI, DVB-T (HD), BlueRay... 

... And 5000€ more??

Is the Earset 3 not currently available in Europe?  We've been selling them in the US for the majority of 2008 ... I believe they came out in January.

Reading some more in the french forum, it seems information about the BS5 and a 2 way remote is still vague - nothing was shown it seems. So we have to hold our thumbs. Also, smart playlists were mentioned but that that actually implies I think is open. I hope hey beat Apple to the punch. Ipod / Itunes Release day is tomorrow and I am preparing to be underwhelmed by Apple as usually.

 

Cheers

JK 

 

 

The Earset should be availble since it came out with the Serenata. It could probably be bought as a spare but wasn't marketed alone (to the Iphone crowd, obviously).

The earset 3 was only available with the Serenata connector. Earset 3 with minijack (for iPhone) was only available in the USA.

From the French forum :

- No 2 way remote (so iTunes + Remote keeps a bit of advance)
- Not sure about the possibility to have one Beomaster 5 and more Beosound 5, each in a link room.
- The screen is large enough to show approximately real size covers
- Three wheels : two for the menus (one for general menu : artists/albums/covers..., the second for the submenus like "titles", and the third for the volume)

jk1002:

Reading some more in the french forum, it seems information about the BS5 and a 2 way remote is still vague - nothing was shown it seems. So we have to hold our thumbs. 

The Beo5 does not have the hardware to do 2 way... so we need to forget about it unfortunately.

What I would suggest to B&O is to put a USB socket on the Beomaster5/Beomedia1. You could connect the Beo5 and it would send the list of songs, playlists and cover art (but not the songs themselves of course). In that way it would be easily to navigate though playlists on the Beo5 in any room when you are away from the Beosound 5.

This a thought/suggestion, and it is not based on any rumour, so let's not get excited!

p. 

wtlc2zpx:

jk1002:

Reading some more in the french forum, it seems information about the BS5 and a 2 way remote is still vague - nothing was shown it seems. So we have to hold our thumbs. 

The Beo5 does not have the hardware to do 2 way... so we need to forget about it unfortunately.

What I would suggest to B&O is to put a USB socket on the Beomaster5/Beomedia1. You could connect the Beo5 and it would send the list of songs, playlists and cover art (but not the songs themselves of course). In that way it would be easily to navigate though playlists on the Beo5 in any room when you are away from the Beosound 5.

This a thought/suggestion, and it is not based on any rumour, so let's not get excited!

p. 

The Beo5 does not make any sense if it is not to be used as a 2-way remote. I have heard that it has Bluetooth...

I cannot believe that BS5 is supposed not to have 2-way com. Without 2-way the BS5, as good as it might be, will not be up to par.

The Beo4 (and all Beo remotes) does not operate in the same range of frequencies as other remote controls, such as philips, sony, etc...

The Beo5 can emit in 3 different frequency ranges, so it could control directly (i-e without STB-C) other devices. It is not widely used because it is not supported by the config software right now, except for Lutron codes.

The 3 LEDs correspond to the 3 different ranges.

Beo5 does not have bluetooth. 

p. 

wtlc2zpx:

The Beo5 does not have the hardware to do 2 way... so we need to forget about it unfortunately.

True, the beo5 current model has not IR receiver, so forget 2 ways. 

wtlc2zpx:

What I would suggest to B&O is to put a USB socket on the Beomaster5/Beomedia1. You could connect the Beo5 and it would send the list of songs, playlists and cover art (but not the songs themselves of course).

Beo5 has not enough memory capacity for that purpose. It has only 2Mb of ram, and for example I'm just now using 1,85Mb in 3 zones only! so just enough space only for add a dozen of new buttons...  very soon I'll see again the warning window: "cannot download the software update because the memory device is full"

wtlc2zpx:

In that way it would be easily to navigate though playlists ... in any room when you are away from the Beosound 5.

That's why if new beosound5 control panel is not a portable device like any other remote is from ages, and we are forced to fix it to a stand fully wired like other classic beosounds... I'll not be really interested in this new product
because I want a control panel that I can carry with me all around my home: to my couch or whatever listening spot, even my bed.
A "blind" but full control of all my compressed NMusic and NRadio is what I already have with beoport+beo4(now beo5) from 7 years now ... what a innovation!

 

I'm looking forward to see how really works this new BS5  

I am sure that I read some where that the Beo5 had some sort of inbuilt radio or WiFi communication port. Also we were given a hint that the future would incorporate 2 way.

 

Are you CERTAIN that the Beo5 only has 1 way IR?

 

I remember we were given a hint that it will be two way during the meal in Struer.

But the specifications of the Beo5 are on the B&O site... and I would find it strange that they publish incomplete/false specs.

I however would love the remote to be 2 way! But I prefer not to convince myself that it will be and then be disappointed. 

p. 

Trip "Shattner" English hinted here not to worry about the BS5 coming without 2 way. What I am thinking is, that maybe maybe its possible to just take the screen of the podest. It was shown like that in a lot of drawings. Size wise a bit big, but that wouldnt surprise me.

 

JK

 

So how exactly do the Beosound 5 and Beomaster 5 differ?  It was said above the Beomaster 5 has a 500 g HD.  Does this mean the Beomaster is the Beomedia with a display and the Beosound is just the display?  Could you perhaps use the Beosound 5 with a Beoport connected to your PC or Mac while the Beomaster would eliminate the need for a separate computer?  Would this allow you to have multiple Beosound 5's connected to one storage source?  More questions than answers so far.

expoman:

So how exactly do the Beosound 5 and Beomaster 5 differ?  It was said above the Beomaster 5 has a 500 g HD.  Does this mean the Beomaster is the Beomedia with a display and the Beosound is just the display?  Could you perhaps use the Beosound 5 with a Beoport connected to your PC or Mac while the Beomaster would eliminate the need for a separate computer?  Would this allow you to have multiple Beosound 5's connected to one storage source?  More questions than answers so far.

 

Just a guess here, but I'd say that the BM5 is your main storage piece with perhaps local display output either to a TV or perhaps it's own onboard display.  The BS5 sounds more like a client streamer.  In that way, the BS5 would expand the reach of the BM5 in other zones.  The seemingly in-depth interface of the BS5 makes it attractive to make use of all possible functionality even in a room where you don't have a separate display for on-screen GUI navigation.  

 The mention of iTunes integration is interesting though.  That perhaps suggests that the BS5 could possibly be used without the BM5. If you already manage an extensive digital music collection on iTunes, the BM5 might not be worthwhile.  For customers who want a self-contained system, the BM5 would then be the perfect compliment to rip content to and stream from.   

Again, just a guess here based on what I have seen across the music server/streamer landscape.

Jeff 

The BS-5/BM-5 should be looked at as more like the BeoCenter 2.  It is a 2 piece system, in which the BeoMaster 5 is not really meant to be seen.  The BeoSound 5 is the visible piece.  The difference is in that rumour suggests the BM-5 could ultimately support more than one 'head' unit.

I'm also intrigued by the mention of iTunes.... 

Russ