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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
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02-06-2008 5:43 AM
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pgerell
- Joined on 05-24-2007
- Stockholm
- Posts 77
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Hi, I have a BL3500 connected to a beomaster 6500 using master link via a beolink converter. The clock doesn't seem to be transmitted to the BL3500. However I have a vague memory of seeing the clock the first time i hooked the speaker up to my system, but maybe I'm wrong. Does anyone know if this is supposed to work? /Peter
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AdiS
- Joined on 07-24-2007
- Posts 196
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Hello Peter, we have a Beolab 3500 connected to an old BeoCenter 9000 and the clock doesn´t work - in January 2001 we bought one of the last BeoCenter 9300 and hooked it up to the Lab 3500 and it worked perfectly - so I would guess that the Beomaster won´t benefit the Beolab. regards, Adrian
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lawrencejmcook
- Joined on 05-10-2007
- London
- Posts 42
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This seems odd to me. The Beolab 3500 is compatible with both MCL2 and ML, isn't it? or is it a matter of having the right software version?
Lawrence
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pgerell
- Joined on 05-24-2007
- Stockholm
- Posts 77
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So what you are saying is that it should work? All I get is the empty colon if set to Clock1 or Clock2. Do I have to do something more than setting the clock at the master?
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Peter, Is the Beolab 3500 and the 6500 in the same room ? What version of software is running on your Beolab 3500. To see how to check look at my FAQ on the subject HERE Also do you have other Masterlink products connected, if so what are they ? If you don't have other Masterlink products, why do you have a converter ?
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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Keith Saunders: If you don't have other Masterlink products, why do you have a converter ?
New BL 3500´s doesn´t have MCL.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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By the way Keith, next week I will take mine BL 3500 to service. If you remember, the two buttons doesn´t work. I removed the display as you said and it seems to be some problem with the small rubber buttons just under the plastic dispaly cover. I leave it to the service department.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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pgerell
- Joined on 05-24-2007
- Stockholm
- Posts 77
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I'll try to check the software version tomorrow. Unfortunately my Beolink 1000 broke recently. Do you know how to get the version with a Beo4, Beolink 5000 or a MCP 5500? I have no other ML products connected at the moment. The reason I use ML instead of MCL is that I have a LexCom Home network in my house that is able to carry the masterlink signals but not MCL. Thanks Peter
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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pgerell: I have a LexCom Home network in my house that is able to carry the masterlink signals
Could this be the problem?
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Daniel, you could be correct. I do not know much about the Lexcom system, but I think the best way to determine if it is the cause is to take it out of the circuit. Peter, I would suggest taking the Beolab 3500 to within direct Masterlink cable length from the 6500 and testing it again. You can check the software version with a Beo4 following teh instructions in my FAQ, but using "GO" instead of the play button
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Quim43
- Joined on 11-15-2007
- Tarragona (Catalonia)
- Posts 1,030
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I checked the version of my 3500 right now. If Menu,0,0,Go doesn't work, then press Menu,menu,0,0,Go, and it will appears. Cheers
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Quim43, You statement is true if you have software version 2.0 or above. If it is below this version, then "Menu" is pressed once. The reason is that Version 2.0 introduced the "Timer" menu.
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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Daniel: pgerell: I have a LexCom Home network in my house that is able to carry the masterlink signals
Could this be the problem?
Not sure if this will help, but I use the Lexcom cables - ethernet to masterlink - with my Beolab 3500 and Ouverture/BV 3-32 setup. As a hub a ML distribution box is used, no Lexcom devices. My clock on the BL 3500 works just fine. Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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pgerell
- Joined on 05-24-2007
- Stockholm
- Posts 77
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I have now tested with a direct ML-cable between the two units. Still no clock. My SW is of version 1.0. /Peter
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beo-ap
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 231
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I had the same "no clock" problem with my 3500, though my set up is ML only. Some one on the old forum sent the following instructions and it solved my problem: You have 3 options for the clock display of a BL3500.
NO CLOCK - no time indication - on standby just the red dot and when playing just the source is shown CLOCK.1 - on standby, the time is shown. When playing there is a permanent display of the selected function - use this if you have no clock in your audio or video master
CLOCK.2 - (factory default) on standby, the time is shown.When playing - time is on, except briefly when you when operate a function locally or on the remote control
To change the selected clock function:
a. Keep your finger on the TIMER key, while pressing the MUTE key briefly, several times. b. The display shows a cue for the current setting. c. Touch MUTE again, and the cue in the display changes. d. Keep touching MUTE this way until the cue changes to the setting you want. e. Then let go of both keys.
Hope this helps.
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pgerell
- Joined on 05-24-2007
- Stockholm
- Posts 77
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Yes I did, but thanks anyway. When I set it to Clock1 or Clock2 I get the colon separator but no hour or minute digits. /Peter
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Well Peter, your last answer is almost certainly the piece of data which tells us the cause of your problem, i.e. your unit is running version 1.0 of the software, let me explain The Beolab 3500 was first released as the LCS9000 with version 1.0 software, then the name was changed to Beolab 3500 with no changes to the unit or software. At that time it was sold as a MCL (Master Link Control) interface only product, yet from day one hidden behind a black plug was a Masterlink socket which could be switched on with a simple Service Menu command. As many dealers soon found out, using the Masterlink with version 1.0 software had its limitations because not all Masterlink commands worked. With the introduction of software version 2.0 it provided full Masterlink functionality, plus timer functions as well as displays like DTV So, if you were to switch your Beolab 3500 to MCL and connect it directly to the MCL (via the speaker sockets to din cable) of your 6500 I think you will find that you would then get the clock, subject to the clock being setup on the 6500 So, when you previously said that you think you saw the clock work when you first had the unit, I expect this was when it was connected to the MCL. As you have a Lexcom system which goes via a converter, then if you want the full Masterlink functionality and clock, then I suggest you upgrade the software of the Beolab 3500. I have previously written an FAQ on how to do this upgrade which is HERE
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