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  • 02-02-2008 1:02 PM

    Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    Hello

    I learned from this forum, that the beovision 7 is going to 100 Hz. In the forum of the official B&O page is written about a possible release of this tv by march 08. Could it be truth or is it just a rumour?

    Thanks for your replays!

    Wallace

  • 02-02-2008 1:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    It seems to be true. I talked with my dealer about this some months ago, and he told me the same thing.

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  • 02-02-2008 1:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    wallace:

    I learned from this forum, that the beovision 7 is going to 100 Hz. In the forum of the official B&O page is written about a possible release of this tv by march 08. Could it be truth or is it just a rumour?

    Hmm. Put it this way, as a customer who received his BV7-40 MKIII on the 31st of December 2007 - only two months after it was announced (see B&O press release) and as little as four weeks ago from today - I'd be stunned if it received a MKIV upgrade (ie blu-ray and 100Hz) by March.

    I know specs move quickly, but why couldn't they have simply waited a couple of months or so and released the new BV7-40 MKIII with the 100Hz and blu-ray from launch?

  • 02-02-2008 5:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    We don't seem to be having much luck do we Chris? !!

    Simon.

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  • 02-02-2008 6:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    The Beonic Man:

    We don't seem to be having much luck do we Chris? !!

    Simon.

    It's people and dealers speculating Simon. A friend mentioned the other day that I first mentioned the upgraded BV7-40 back in early 2007 (March?), so we were talking about this for 8 or 9 months before it was finally launched. They can't then go and upgrade the BV7-40 again, but again forget the BV7-32.

    Blu-ray support won't happen internally for a while. If B&O go down the Blu-ray route, it would be an external player first, in my opinion. The platform is still not fully stable - issues with upgrading standalone drive firmware, for example.

    I guess 100Hz and 24fps support (BS3) might happen, but would be low-key addition, much like HDCP support was adding to BV7's since the original launch.  Mind you, these two additions are more important than an internal Blu-ray player.

  • 02-02-2008 8:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    I think I agree on the external blueray player. I think what may happen to the BV7 is that we see a larger screen. 46" with 100hz. That would be something which wouldn't upset existing 40" customers. I seriously doubt that they would do such a major update this soon after the major update that brought us the integrated BS3.

     JK

     

     

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  • 02-03-2008 4:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    moxxey:
    The Beonic Man:

    We don't seem to be having much luck do we Chris? !!

    Simon.

    It's people and dealers speculating Simon. A friend mentioned the other day that I first mentioned the upgraded BV7-40 back in early 2007 (March?), so we were talking about this for 8 or 9 months before it was finally launched. They can't then go and upgrade the BV7-40 again, but again forget the BV7-32.

    Blu-ray support won't happen internally for a while. If B&O go down the Blu-ray route, it would be an external player first, in my opinion. The platform is still not fully stable - issues with upgrading standalone drive firmware, for example.

    I guess 100Hz and 24fps support (BS3) might happen, but would be low-key addition, much like HDCP support was adding to BV7's since the original launch.  Mind you, these two additions are more important than an internal Blu-ray player.

     

    There are so few BR players  at the moment are profile 1.1 and only the well known japanese brands offer a reliable firmware update on a regular basis- is NOT samsung- who have gone the dual format route and previous attempts at BR have not been good. They dont make a reliable product- so i would not want that included in the BV7 anyway!

    I dont think even BnO are going to upgrade the BV7 in this way without providing firstly the latest profile and secondly a way of updating the firmware. As for 100HTZ and 24FPS - this is not going to change the perfomance much even if they did include it.

    18 months from now there will be changes which will make an appreciable difference.

  • 02-03-2008 4:07 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    jk1002:

    I think I agree on the external blueray player. I think what may happen to the BV7 is that we see a larger screen. 46" with 100hz. That would be something which wouldn't upset existing 40" customers. I seriously doubt that they would do such a major update this soon after the major update that brought us the integrated BS3.

     JK

     

     

     

    The only individusal who would be seriously pissed if that was to happen would be the purchasers because samsung cant make  adecent large screen anyway

  • 02-03-2008 4:13 AM In reply to

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    Profile 1.1 is more important then profile 2.0

    BDP7200 from Philips.

    Very affordable !!!!  Includes profile 1.1 and cost $349

    http://www.ces.philips.com/press_release_bluray.html

  • 02-03-2008 4:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    355f:

    The only individusal who would be seriously pissed if that was to happen would be the purchasers because samsung cant make  adecent large screen anyway

    As we've discussed, the BV7-40 MKIII is stunning in HD. 'ok' with SD, but not SD-based football. However, add the extra 6 inches and any SD broadcast would be even more poor and pixelated. Also, the 40 is large enough for the average room. Bear in mind the BV7 has another 16cm or so each side of the screen, which makes it look very wide. Gawd knows what a 7.2 (7.3?) speaker would look like on a 46" BV7. A 2m wide speaker? :)

  • 02-03-2008 10:05 AM In reply to

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    no doubt in 6 months time there will be another update to 24p

    ..

    and another £7k layout .. 

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  • 02-15-2008 10:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    From the B&O website. Beocare responded about the 100hz rumor. I hope repost is OK, but guess it is since it's not beneficial to have update rumors floating.

     

    Cheers

    JK 

     

    Bang & Olufsen televisions are built to be long-lasting, and stay with our customers for many years. We constantly monitor, evaluate and develop technologies, and update our concepts to ensure that we at all times offer a relevant, long-lasting concept to our customers. For example our MX-television was on the market for more than 20 years, and had many updates implemented in its lifetime. 

    We generally do not integrate early generations of technologies, and we only implement a technology when it has reached a mature level, and when implementing it will result in a quality benefit for the customer. 

    With regard to the two technologies mentioned in this thread, BluRay and 100 Hz, we are evaluating both technologies. With regard to playback of high definition DVD we are currently evaluating both main formats on the market (HD-DVD and BluRay), and consider how we can support either of these formats, as well as the standard definition DVD format, in the future. 
    Implementing the 100 Hz technology at this stage would incrementally improve some elements of the picture on a BeoVision 7, however, the standard 100 Hz technology results in some drawbacks in relation to other elements in the picture. Therefore, Bang & Olufsen is working on a further refinement of the 100 Hz technology in order to contribute to an overall improvement of picture quality in our televisions, be it on fast or slow moving pictures. Based on this, we cannot at this point in time confirm implementation of either BluRay or 100 Hz technology within this year. 

    Even without these two mentioned technologies, we are very confident that BeoVision 7 throughout its lifetime is a state-of-the art television with an excellent picture quality that is among the best on the market. 

    Best regards 
    BeoCare

     

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  • 02-16-2008 12:33 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    So in late 2008 or early 2009 we will see the BV7 MkIV with 100Hz and BD player...

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  • 02-25-2008 4:11 AM In reply to

    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    B&o is still working on the 100Hz teknologi. It is not all god about the 100Hz, and there fore is B&o waiting.

    The Blue Ray vil propperly come for the new tv's in 2009, but the chances that it also will be possible to change the dvd-player to the Blue Ray in the Beovision 7 is very high.

  • 04-01-2008 3:36 AM In reply to

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    Didier told us B&O signed with Sony to adapt a PS3 base (Blue-ray) to the BV7-40. Released scheduled in october 2008.

    (french post: http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/permalink/101870/101870/ShowThread.aspx#101870)

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  • 04-01-2008 5:06 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    Emmanuel92:

    Didier told us B&O signed with Sony to adapt a PS3 base (Blue-ray) to the BV7-40. Released scheduled in october 2008.

    (french post: http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/permalink/101870/101870/ShowThread.aspx#101870)

     

    October 2008 is to early, i think launch will be in 2009, the 1st of april 2009 exactly. 

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  • 04-01-2008 7:24 AM In reply to

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     the 1st of april 2009 exactly.

    Big Smile

  • 04-01-2008 8:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    Emmanuel92:

    Didier told us B&O signed with Sony to adapt a PS3 base (Blue-ray) to the BV7-40. Released scheduled in october 2008.

    (french post: http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/permalink/101870/101870/ShowThread.aspx#101870)

    This isn't an April Fools Emmanuel?! HmmLol 

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  • 04-01-2008 8:30 AM In reply to

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    Robert:
    This isn't an April Fools Emmanuel?! HmmLol

    Yes it is ! What a joke Didier ! Laughing 

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  • 04-02-2008 6:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Beovision 7 40 Full HD +100 Hz +blue ray

    Apparently the BV7-40 will not come with an integrated BR player. The physical space required for the BR player isn't there. The DVD player fitted to the BV7 is extremely small, and it is not possible to fit the BR player to the excisting BV7.

    However they are sure that BR is the future, and they wil be offering high quality BR players (probably integrated as well).

     

     

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  • 04-02-2008 9:33 AM In reply to

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    I had it on good authority that the 7 40 will have a BR player by the end of the year, this came from a dealer who had been given the products road map.

    So not aprils fools

  • 04-02-2008 10:06 AM In reply to

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    I'm sorry, but no april fools from me either.

    I had a meeting with B&O yesterday, and the latest news (a few days old) our importer has, is that the current BR technology cannot be fitted in the excisting BV7-40. Sadly, you have to have a separate BR player.

    Let's hope they're wrong, or that there soon will be smaller BR units that can be fitted to the BV7-40.

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  • 04-02-2008 12:50 PM In reply to

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    At a component level I am sure that the drives are pretty similar as the only real difference is the laser length blue as opposed to red and they are also now starting to put slot load drives into PC's so the not enough room argument has no room for excusesBig Smile

    Both Blu-ray and HD-DVD use the same kind of 405 nanometer wavelength blue-violet laser. That means both can focus more sharply than the 650 nanometer red lasers used in current DVD players, and so both can store much more information on the same surface area of a disc

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