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  • 01-07-2008 8:20 PM In reply to

    Torben in Sunday Time

    I like your comments.  They are positive and add a different perspective.

    Separately, although I didn't read the article, based on going through the comments, I think that digital is the way to go.

    I would like to see that B&O incorporates an SD slot in all of their equipment.  It makes it easy to transfer and take the data with you or make a copy, for those data that are legal to copy, i.e. for your own use.  I think we will continue to see the development of SD cards with higher and higher storage capabilities, so that one can literally have a whole collection of music albums on one SD card, or with an adapter, the Memory Stick.  The BeoSound 2, 3 and 4 are in keeping with the SD card standard feature, and I think it would be wise of B&O to continue to try and incorporate this feature in future hardware machines.  Flash memory is also very important and the wave of the future.

    And I think the future is all about digital.  Any electronics company that pursues a future development path without that clearly in their sights would be negligent, to say the least.  So, I think B&O is right on track in this regard.

    I also think voice control will be very important in the future.  The problem is that the software, the algorithms and the logic codes necessary for a reliable and graceful performance of any voice activated and controlled system is difficult and expensive.  However, I think that B&O would be wise to have a few dedicated software engineers and logic scientists on board, shut them away in a special laboratory section, and whose sole mandate would be to what I call Free Think about voice technology and logic.  And maybe, just maybe, something wonderful will arise in a few years from such "taking a chance" endeavor.  After all, B&O wouldn't be hurt by a small group of 'runaway' engineers/inventors who might come up with something exceptional.

    In any case, digital has been and will continue to be very important, so I think B&O is wise to follow this course. 

  • 01-08-2008 1:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    linder:

    Alex,

    It is not about the truth.  Its about marketing.  B&O products are in Audi cars not BMW.  Audi cars are on the B&O website.  Can you imagine Steve Jobs telling someone there are better products that should be considered other than Apple?

    You are right.  I would expect a salesman to be more truthful if that's possible but I would always expect a CEO to be on message about marketing his company's products.

    The bit about the car is silly and insignificant in the larger scheme of things.  However people notice these things possibly the CEO of VW/Audi. 

    True, I know why people are highlighting this.

    However, those who want an Audi know exactly what they're looking for, and aren't likely to be 'swayed' or have their mind changed in any way by somebody else's decision. The fact that the CEO drives a different car says he prefers the car, not the sound system inside it...

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  • 01-08-2008 2:50 AM In reply to

    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    i guess torben has excellent taste !

    audi's as i've mentioned before are so boring and characterless that even volvo's are more interesting..i think it's a snub in audi's face that he drives a bmw - a very brilliant one at that!

    boring audi's don't say anything about the owner except - i can't afford a mercedes or a bmw is too exciting for a pleb like me

    bno belong in real cars - not wanabbees - how about lamborghini , porsche or bentley - that's where bno belong !

    it's a well known fact that the audi a8 is a total disaster , outsold by the 7 series , the lexus even and the all conquering s-class , it has terrible resale value and they quite literally give them away to any 3rd rate celeb in a hopeless attempt at getting some publicity for the boring barge like thing

    popgear is grate™

  • 01-08-2008 3:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Audis are in fact very fine cars, if understated and quite the reverse in fact, I would stop short of buying a BMW because of my "would you speak to them in a bar" rule. This isn't universal and there are of course exceptions (Lee and others Big Smile) but I would suggest that there would be a significantly higher percentage of BMW drivers than Audi, left to keep their own company. Thus we have a paradox, what some see as a badge of prestige others see quite differently.

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-08-2008 5:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    audi's may well be decent cars , but they utterly lack prestige or 'image'

    and let's face it , that's wht bno are ALL about

    you don't get a lot more prestigious and image conscious than bang & olufsen , not even apple can match them for that

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  • 01-08-2008 5:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Flappo The Grate:

    audi's may well be decent cars , but they utterly lack prestige or 'image'

    and let's face it , that's wht bno are ALL about

    you don't get a lot more prestigious and image conscious than bang & olufsen , not even apple can match them for that

    Flappo, not in the UK. In many ways, some people regard Audi above BMW over here, particular in regards to build quality. In the same way that Skoda is regarded as a poor brand in the UK and more a prestige brand in Germany (and vice-versa for VW).

    Over here, BMW is very much a middle management car - you see many company car drivers with BMW's.

     

  • 01-08-2008 5:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Flappo The Grate:

    audi's may well be decent cars , but they utterly lack prestige or 'image'

    and let's face it , that's wht bno are ALL about

    you don't get a lot more prestigious and image conscious than bang & olufsen , not even apple can match them for that

    Sometimes theres a lot to be said for understatementWink and prestige or image doesn't necessarily mean "in-yer-face". B&O's column speakers in polished aluminium, for example, were designed to 'disappear' among the background. 

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-08-2008 1:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Agreed. Part of what I like about B&O's designs is that while they may have design and wow factor like no other product on the market, there's something very non 'flashy' about them, very subtle...

    I guess that's why I like Audis, the styling is very subtle but image conscious at the same time.

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  • 01-08-2008 2:24 PM In reply to

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    omg  I didn't mean to start a car war.  I agree with Alex except if I had the extra money, I would get an R8.

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  • 01-08-2008 2:32 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Stick out tongue Either way, the best car money can buy would be a Volkswagen camper van

    Okay, well maybe it's not a car, but it's still the best thing to be seen in on the road. Either that or a TR6 or Cortina mk3 Wink

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  • 01-08-2008 2:48 PM In reply to

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    Flappo The Grate:

    audi's may well be decent cars , but they utterly lack prestige or 'image'

    Don't agree I'm afraid. The current range of Audis are very cool and stylish in my opinion. I would certainly have an Audi over a Merc or a BMW at the moment for exactly that reason. The B&O and Audi collaboration was brilliant I say, and to the disagreement of many I know, I don't think the Aston Martin deal was cool at all. I suppose this is just another BL8000 / BL3 like discussion. Laughing

  • 01-08-2008 3:10 PM In reply to

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    Alex:

    Stick out tongue Either way, the best car money can buy would be a Volkswagen camper van

    Okay, well maybe it's not a car, but it's still the best thing to be seen in on the road. Either that or a TR6 or Cortina mk3 Wink

    A Mk3 Cortina!! Truly awful car! My father had an M reg 2000GXL auto. It oversteered at 20MPH! It also rusted like sin and the inside trim was all plastic wood. And have you driven a TR6? Rotten driving position and no wider than my GT6.

    I am waiting for B&O to bring out a system for my Prius! Laughing 

  • 01-08-2008 3:20 PM In reply to

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    Peter:

    A Mk3 Cortina!! Truly awful car! My father had an M reg 2000GXL auto. It oversteered at 20MPH! It also rusted like sin and the inside trim was all plastic wood. And have you driven a TR6? Rotten driving position and no wider than my GT6.

    I am waiting for B&O to bring out a system for my Prius! Laughing 

    Prius?!!? Are you running for local MP or something? Stick out tongue

    It's not about the drive though, or the fact that it rusts... they had one in Life On Mars!!! Laughing

    I have thought about a Triumph, the GT6 would seem more sensible. One of my dad's friends would no doubt be able to service them (he builds rally cars, so he's pretty adept).

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  • 01-08-2008 4:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Peter:

    I am waiting for B&O to bring out a system for my Prius! Laughing 

    Just think of the size of Subwoofer you could use with the Class D output Stage that drives the Prius' electric motorSurpriseBig Smile

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 01-08-2008 4:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Alex:

    It's not about the drive though, or the fact that it rusts... they had one in Life On Mars!!! Laughing

    I have thought about a Triumph, the GT6 would seem more sensible. One of my dad's friends would no doubt be able to service them (he builds rally cars, so he's pretty adept).

    Call me an Old Fart if you will but get something modern!!Yes -  thumbs up The reason cars like this are 'Sunday' cars isn't because they are classics or even mileage related - is because most folk can spare the time to breakdown on a SundayWink

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  • 01-08-2008 4:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Ha! I have a lot of good memories of my Mk3 GXL. Like the time it passed it's MOT with three brakes working, and a pair of Molegrips dangling off the brake pipe on the fourth! Or when the steering rack refused to let me turn right, I had to go past the junction then back round to the left until my car was lined up for the new road then drive ahead!! Learnd many new driving skills in that car
    Alex, are you 17 or 47?

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  • 01-08-2008 4:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Laughing

    As much as I'd love a 70s car, I'm looking at a Peugeot 306 for my first car! My dad's had two (a GTI and a Rallye) and my mum's had two as well (a standard 306 plus a yellow cabriolet, eww), and they've all been very good cars (except for the yellow cabriolet, what a disgusting car Stick out tongue). The 306 is cheap, performs very well (amazing brakes), has fantastic proportions and looks good with the right choice of colour/trimmings etc... and has large bootspace + is cheap to insure and very reliable.

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  • 01-08-2008 4:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Torben in Sunday Times

    Alex:

    Laughing

    As much as I'd love a 70s car, I'm looking at a Peugeot 306 for my first car! My dad's had two (a GTI and a Rallye) and my mum's had two as well (a standard 306 plus a yellow cabriolet, eww), and they've all been very good cars (except for the yellow cabriolet, what a disgusting car Stick out tongue). The 306 is cheap, performs very well (amazing brakes), has fantastic proportions and looks good with the right choice of colour/trimmings etc... and has large bootspace + is cheap to insure and very reliable.

    What a sensible young chap our Alex is!Big Smile

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  • 01-09-2008 7:37 PM In reply to

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    Stick out tongue Either way, the best car money can buy would be a Volkswagen camper van

    Okay, well maybe it's not a car, but it's still the best thing to be seen in on the road. Either that or a TR6 or Cortina mk3 Wink

    Alex, interesting you mentioned the TR6. My late father was a Triumph enthusiast and owned every TR car ever built. He bought and restored most of them himself. He had a proud collection that has long been sold off. The TR6 was a nice car and there are many examples of it still around but his absolute favourite was the TR3A, you can look it up on Google. He adored that car and I am sure he regretted selling it. I have to say that Triumph generally were not very reliable cars, they had poor mechanics and suffered with rust terribly. The TR7/8 which I always thought looked great design wise (many would disagree) was the worst disaster of all!

    The camper van is a classic, had many a happy time travelling Europe with my neighbour and a few friends in my late teens. They used to have classic car shows at Sandown Race Course every year, they may well still go on. You could always see some amazing examples of camper's their and how people had customised them. I never forget this one I saw which had a jungle hand painted all over it. It was absolutly stunning. The most amazing artwork I have ever seen on a vehicle! God knows how long that took to do.

    Simon.

    PS My favourite car is the AC Cobra which was built where I was born, in Thames Ditton. What's your fav?

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