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  • 03-16-2009 11:26 AM

    • ReTrO
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    Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    I am having some trouble with a set of 4 Beolab 4000 speakers running off the back of a Denon AVR-2809 receiver in a small cinema system.

    They are connected by phono to phono cable and use the signal sensing phono inputs on the speakers. This all works very well from a sound quality point of view, but the trouble comes when there is anything more than a very brief drop in sound levels through any of the channels.

    Is there anyway of adjusting the time out that the speakers use, to switch off once they aren't seeing a signal come in.  Currently they appear to be switching off after no more than 2 seconds.  It's getting rather annoying having them clicking away all the time in quieter films.

     

    Many thanks

     

    Richard

  • 03-16-2009 11:43 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Very strange!! It's meant to be 3 minute switch off time.

    They are switched to "line" aren't they??

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  • 03-16-2009 11:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Hmm, will have to check as it wasn't me that undertook the cabling side of this.

    Is it likely that it could be the switch set wrong?

  • 03-16-2009 12:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Richard,

    A very warm welcome to Beoworld and your first posting.

    I have had a look at the circuit which defines the timing of the switch off and it is determined by the charging of C148 switching transistor TR142. This timing should be about 100 seconds, so I am surprised when you say it is about 2 seconds.

    Is it the same for all 4 speakers as there is no actual adjustment because it should not be needed ?

     

    Regards Keith....

  • 03-16-2009 12:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Yes, all the speakers are doing the same thing, which is most irritating.  And they're a pain to check too, due to being mounted 9ft up on oak beams. :)

  • 03-16-2009 5:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Richard,

    Given that all the speakers do the same thing, then I would say that either:-

    • B&O have installed incorrect timing capacitor which is possible, but not likely
    • More likely is that you have a signal ground potential difference between the signal ground of your amplifier and the signal ground in the Beolab 4000 which is producing a larger than normal voltage across the timing capacitor.

    Is your amplifier signal ground connected to power earth ?

    The Beolab 4000's are isolated from power ground. i.e. the Beolab 4000 do not have a mains earth connection.

    Regards Keith....

  • 03-17-2009 4:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Hi Richard,

    Welcome to the forum!

    I would never dare argue with Keith Laughing (I am sure he will be proven to be correct!), but I have seen a similar problem recently.

    In some circumstances, Beolab 4000, 6000 and 8000 speakers that are set to "Left" or "Right" instead of "Line" will still switch on from standby when a signal is present at the Line In RCA socket, but they will switch off almost instantly after the signal drops away.  I suspect that this could be caused by a potential difference between the speakers and the pre-amp, but I've never had a chance to fully investigate.

    The simple answer is that I think your speakers are set to "Left" and "Right" instead of to "Line", so my guess is that a trip up the ladder is needed to check - Sorry!

    Hope this helps,

    Steve.

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  • 03-17-2009 8:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beolab 4000 Signal Sensing Issue

    Much appreciated info guys!

    Will sort out a trip up the ladder. :)

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