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  • 06-06-2009 8:35 AM

    MCL 2P volume

    Everytime I turn on the music in the linkroom, using a MCL 2 AV and MCL 2 P, the volume is very high.

    How can I set the MCL 2 P volume on another starting level?

  • 06-06-2009 8:50 AM In reply to

    • Ignace
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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    - choose a source

    - set the preferred volume level

    - press SOUND STORE

     

  • 06-06-2009 8:53 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Does not work. It seems like the volume of the beomaster and the mcl 2p are interfering with each other.

    When I press sound store the volume disappears completely.

  • 06-06-2009 9:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Is the volume level in the main room high enough ?

    (do you have the manuals ?, they are available for download)

     

  • 06-06-2009 9:08 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    No I don't have manuals. The volume on the beomaster is 20, so the sound in the main room is good.

    When I turn on the linkroom, the volume is very high. When I press sound it almost mutes.

    The manuals available on the website don't give a solution.

  • 06-06-2009 9:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Normally, with a MCL2AV, the volume level in a link-room can be up to 12 dB above the level of the main room.

    So if the volume in main room is only 20, and the volume in link-room is very high,

    my guess is is that there must be something wrong with the settings / setup.

    If you want, i can send you the overview of the B&O recommended setup.

    Is the following correct ?

    - main room : BM5500

    - link room : MCL2AV + MCL2P

    Any other components connected ?

     

  • 06-06-2009 9:22 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Thanks for the help

    The main room consists of a Beomaster 5500 and a Beogram CD 5500. The link room has a MCL 2 AV connected to an MCL 2P.

    No other components are attached.

    The Option settings are 1.5 on the beomaster and 2.6 on the MCL 2 AV

  • 06-06-2009 9:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Below is the overview of the B&O recommended setup.

    Are your connections identical ?

    ***************************** AUDIOSYSTEEM ****************************


    Beosystem 5500
    Beovox passief

    Audio aansluiting


    Sluit de Beovox met luidspreker kabel aan op de uitgang SPEAKERS 1
    van de audiomaster.

    Sluit de antenne aan op de antenne-ingang van de audiomaster.

    Kiezen van een optie op de audiomaster


    Optie: OPTION 1.5 (Fabrieksinstelling)

    Druk op:  STAND-BY   SOUND 1 STORE
                         SOUND 5 STORE

    ****************** AFSTANDSBEDIENING IN CENTRALE KAMER ****************


    De Beolink 1000 is de aanbevolen afstandsbediening

    ***************************** LINK SYSTEEM ****************************


    Master Control Link

    X-tra active speakers
    ML/MCL Converter, gebruikt als MCL 2P-ML/MCL Converter
    Beovox passief
    Transceiver

    Aansluiting


    Sluit de MCL kabel aan op de SPEAKERS 2 aansluitingen van de audio
    master in de centrale kamer.
    Is al een MCL kabel aangesloten, sluit de nieuwe kabel dan parallel
    aan.

    Sluit de MCL kabel aan op de 7-pens aansluitstrip van de MCL 2AV in
    de lokale kamer.
    Sluit de transceiver kabel aan op de 5-pens aansluitstrip van de
    MCL 2AV.

    Verbind de POWER LINK aansluiting van de MCL 2P-ML/MCL Converter met
    die van de MCL 2AV met Power Link-kabels.

    Sluit de DC uitgang van de MCL 2P-ML/MCL Converter aan op de DC 15V
    ingang van de MCL 2AV.

    Sluit de Beovox aan op de SPEAKERS uitgangen van de MCL 2P-ML/MCL
    Converter met luidspreker kabels.

    Kiezen van de optie op de MCL


    Druk op:   STAND-BY  LINK  2  STORE
                         LINK  6  STORE

    Houd de toets TIMER op de transceiver ingedrukt en druk tegelij-
    kertijd op de toets AV op de Beolink 1000.

    Opmerking!


    Het is niet mogelijk de laatstgebruikte bron in te schakelen door op
    MUTE op de afstandsbediening te drukken.

    Audio-opname in de centrale kamer kan vanuit de lokale kamer worden
    gestart door op LINK RECORD RECORD te drukken.
    Toch raden wij u aan opname altijd in de centrale kamer te starten.

    De MCP 5500 is beperkt bruikbaar in de lokale kamer.

    ****************** AFSTANDSBEDIENING VOOR LINK KAMERS *****************


    De Beo4 is de aanbevolen afstandsbediening
     
    Setup voor Beo4 afstandsbediening:
     

    De Beo4's "LIST" moet de volgende items bevatten om de produkten
    vanuit de Link kamer  te kunnen bedienen.

    A.SETUP (alleen met S/W 2.0 of hoger in Beo4)
    AV      (alleen met S/W 4.0 of hoger in Beo4)
     
    Zie handleiding van Beo4 pagina 10/12 onder functies VERWIJDEREN en
    TOEVOEGEN van/aan het overzicht

  • 06-06-2009 9:33 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Yes, that's the way it is connected. I just found out that when I turn on the system in the link and I press the volume up button two times it gets louder and after that is on a soft level again.

  • 06-06-2009 10:03 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    If the MCL 2/AV can change the volume and the MCL 2P can change its volume as wel, that is maybe where the trouble is. Could there be a communication problem due to the powerlink cable?

  • 06-06-2009 1:51 PM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Nico van Bohemen:

    Yes, that's the way it is connected. I just found out that when I turn on the system in the link and I press the volume up button two times it gets louder and after that is on a soft level again.

    I guess that is the "max 12 dB" difference between main- and link-room (?)

    If you raise the volume in the main-room and repeat what you previously did,
    is the pattern the same, but with a higher volume level ?

     

  • 06-07-2009 6:34 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Yes, that must be the 12 dB difference. When I link the music to the linkroom when the masterroom is already playing. The volume is good.

    When I let the MCL 2 AV activate then it gets loud. 

    Is there a way to make the MCL 2 AV on a lower startup volume? It seems like the MCL 2 AV starts fully amplified.

  • 06-07-2009 7:04 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    The problem is solved! volume > sound > store > store

    So 2 times the store button!

  • 06-07-2009 2:45 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    I thought it was solved.

    Now I am able to change the startup-volume of the MCL 2 AV. When I advance in volume at a certain level my beomaster would be advancing in volume too. But the strange thing is that first the volume drops a lot, as if the MCL 2 AV drops its amplification completely and then it is possible to make it louder via the beomaster. I am clueless right now.

  • 06-07-2009 2:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Were all components disconnected from the mains when you connected MCL2AV/MCL2P/Beomaster ?

    You could try a "soft reset" by disconnecting all components from the mains and wait a few minutes

    before reconnecting them again.

     

  • 06-07-2009 3:04 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Already had it of the mains for a night. I suspect that some commands are misinterpreted. When I press cd in the link room on the master control panel it starts. When I press status or sound on the terminal 1000, the volume is drops and then I can put the volume up again.

  • 06-07-2009 3:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Does your BM5500 have a Beolink sticker / Beolink software installed ?
    Normally, in a audio-link setup, this isn't mentioned in the PCG,
    only when i select a Beovision in the setup, it displays Beolink software,
    maybe this Beolink software has something to do with it.

    The PCG also displays that MCP5500 has limited functionality in link-room.

     

  • 06-07-2009 3:22 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Yes, I know the Master control panel has limited functionality. It says Beolink on the back of the beomaster.

    Maybe I am gonna try another MCL 2 AV to see if it has something to do with that.

    There are no other repliers with good ideas, unfortunately

  • 06-07-2009 3:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Maybe the type of MCL2AV has something to do with it,
    is it an Xtra-tv-kit or a Xtra Active Speaker Kit ?
    (with/without 2-way transceiver)

    Other possibility is the MCL2P;
    the PCG keeps mentioning ML/MCL-converter, used as MCL2P.
    Perhaps this (newer) ML-MCL converter treats things differently from a MCL2P,
    which is "only" an amplifier.

     

  • 06-07-2009 4:06 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    It has a two way receiver.

  • 06-07-2009 4:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: MCL 2P volume

    That would be the Xtra Active Speaker Kit, which should work normally.
    What remains is the MCL2P; anyone with more information regarding the
    differences between a MCL2P and a ML/MCL-converter ?

  • 06-07-2009 4:45 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    The MCL2P is just a power amplifier. The varaible volume work is done by the MCL2AV which takes the variable line level of the MCL and then has a pre-amplifier. This allows independent volume control to a point - if the MCL volume is either very low or very high, then either you will have limited range in the link room or you will affect the main room. This is what the 12dB bit is about. There is a long explanation in the MCL2 set up guide. Are you using the proper fully wired powerlink cable? I would suggest that the problem lies with the MCL2AV - check the connections inside.

  • 06-07-2009 4:48 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    Could the powerlink cable be a problem? I don't know exactly what you mean with fully wired.

  • 06-07-2009 5:10 PM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    There are a variety of cables available - some only carry the signal whereas others have all 8 pins wired which include switching and lots of shielding. I always use fully wired given the choice. However the first thing to check is the wiring to the MCL2AV. RTake the cover off and check all the connection blocks. Also make sure the speaker power potentiometer is right up to max - (this is really just for passive operation but might have an effect - I don't know) This is used to limit the volume if using passive speakers - it may not be in your version - this seems to be mainly US market ones.

  • 06-08-2009 6:23 AM In reply to

    Re: MCL 2P volume

    My MCL doen't have those potentiometers.

    I tried another MCL 2 AV that was lying around and it gave the some behaviour.

    Could the MCL 2P do strange things? 

     

     

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