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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 09-24-2008 3:38 PM by linder. 27 replies.
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Mr10Percent
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- In Transit
- Posts 441
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
The way I read the BS5 from the photo's I have seen is that it will be a direct replacement (in the physical sense) to Beomedia1 and Beoport. I'm sure it can be a master or slave but eitherway, the ML system will ensure that all previous ML compatable equipment can be used with it. What will be interesting to see is if the BS5 will have "placeholders" for TV, Radio, DVD, CD, V.Mem etc... as per the Beo4/Beo5 remotes. That would be good. 10%
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Tom
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Luxembourg
- Posts 3,175
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
I could imagine that the BS9000 will not be discontinued, because it is a good seller for B&O. But IMO it would be more logical to discontinue it, as B&O seems to follow the digital path. As the CD is on it's way out, I think the BS9000 couldn't survive for another 10 years anyway. Wait and see...
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. - Berthold Auerbach
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timhanna
- Joined on 11-28-2007
- London
- Posts 602
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Im sure all they needed to do was make it read MP3s, id be more than happy really.
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jk1002
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Boston USA
- Posts 1,620
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
That it will be discontinued came out of the news from the shareholder presentation - posted in this forum. I personally prefer the CD over MP3 and will keep buying them. MP3 for me is more a thing on the road. I don't think it's dead, I think one might get the impression because MP3s are shared and that robs market share. Why pay when you get it for free? Remember where most MP3s are coming from, not all are born in the Apple store.
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Does any one have a clue how much the BM5 will cost?? I'm on the edge of my seat
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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Sal
- Joined on 04-30-2007
- Indianapolis, USA
- Posts 261
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
timhanna: Im sure all they needed to do was make it read MP3s, id be more than happy really.
A carriage / hardware / software update would do the trick, I am sure the chipfab gurus can whip something up in notime, as I have always said, I'd be one of the first to send mine in for an update if it was available to current owners. -Sal
Love B&O, but no longer addicted.
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Beofan2
- Joined on 07-31-2007
- Fredericia, Denmark
- Posts 313
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
From what I´m been told it´s not a bestseller. I believe Cd´s out in a few years. My dealer told me that BS5 comes with a new patented system to improve sound.
It´s not magic - it´s Bang & Olufsen
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Beobird
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Netherlands
- Posts 506
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Beofan2: From what I´m been told it´s not a bestseller. I believe Cd´s out in a few years. My dealer told me that BS5 comes with a new patented system to improve sound.
sounds interesting, but I hope that's not a "new" loudness function...
We Can't Get Enough B&O Stuff...
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Beobird: Beofan2: From what I´m been told it´s not a bestseller. I believe Cd´s out in a few years. My dealer told me that BS5 comes with a new patented system to improve sound.
sounds interesting, but I hope that's not a "new" loudness function...
That sounds unrealistic. Just like the quote that some loudspeakers sound do not depend on placement!
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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henrik
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Stockholm, Sweden
- Posts 299
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Beofan2: My dealer told me that BS5 comes with a new patented system to improve sound.
Ouch! Sounds like Bose!
Seriously, I'm a real skeptic when it comes to "sound improvement" functions. It is always a form of degradation, even if it sounds "better".
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Tom
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Luxembourg
- Posts 3,175
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Dave: Does any one have a clue how much the BM5 will cost?? I'm on the edge of my seat
I think I have read here that it's price will be around 5000€.
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. - Berthold Auerbach
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Beofan2
- Joined on 07-31-2007
- Fredericia, Denmark
- Posts 313
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
We will just have to wait and listen in november.
It´s not magic - it´s Bang & Olufsen
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TWG
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Germany
- Posts 950
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Beofan2: From what I´m been told it´s not a bestseller. I believe Cd´s out in a few years. My dealer told me that BS5 comes with a new patented system to improve sound.
Electronics to artificialy improve sound is NOT what I understand from Hi-Fi! Electronic corrections can be done by every cheapo company.
In my opinion an audio device should NOT add anything! It has to put out the music as good as it comes from its source (e.g. CD, Tape, MP3-File, WAV-File etc.)
The new CEO wants to bring B&O back to its roots and I hope they will do that. If I want artificial sound I'll buy some china MP3-Players with "SUPERBASS" or "FX-Surround-Sound" etc. ;-)
From B&O I expect high quality HIFI and no artificial sound. Btw the Beosound 5 seems to look GREAT! ;)
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timhanna
- Joined on 11-28-2007
- London
- Posts 602
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
TWG: The new CEO wants to bring B&O back to its roots and I hope they will do that. If I want artificial sound I'll buy some china MP3-Players with "SUPERBASS" or "FX-Surround-Sound" etc. ;-)
LOOOOLLLL. Love the SUPERBASS! ;)
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wonderfulelectric
- Joined on 06-27-2007
- Posts 302
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
I think that it is highly likely that the "sound improvement function" that B&O is going to implement is something to more of the likes of Linn, Wadia, DCS and Meridian technologies. In theory a hard disk based system can provide better sound than a direct from cd player, the new technologies employed by the companies mentioned uses special filtering techniques to try to minimize jitter and recreate an impulse/waveform structure like that of a natural analog waveform. So if the Beosound 5 is well designed, it's performance should surpass like 99.9%of the disc players on the market by accurately extracting information from the hard disk and employing newer more advanced filtering techniques. Well let's hope B&O is going this classy route instead of the usual cheapo equalization route. In that case I will take one please.
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TWG
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Germany
- Posts 950
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
I do love the superbass, too. But only when it comes out of a subwoofer big like a washing machine ;-)
That thing needs no loudness or sound adjustement; it just has natural power ;) back to topic:
I hope that B&O will keep the BS9000 in the program, it's a very nice machine. Perhaps they can update it with MP3-Support from discs or s.th. like that.
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
The BS9000 just needs a little face lift.
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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jk1002
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Boston USA
- Posts 1,620
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
I think they pushed pricing too far. I have seen an overload of nice design in recent years and it is much more difficult to stand out. , but I haven't seen anything leaving a lasting impression like BS9000/BL8000 and mies van der rohes furniture..
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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wonderfulelectric
- Joined on 06-27-2007
- Posts 302
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
What's so good about the Beosound 9000 that it should be kept in production? It fails to work every now and then because of some trapped dust and it takes kinda long for it to load its discs. Beosound 9000 isn't a practical design at all.
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Christian
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Copenhagen, Denmark
- Posts 626
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
wonderfulelectric: What's so good about the Beosound 9000 that it should be kept in production? It fails to work every now and then because of some trapped dust and it takes kinda long for it to load its discs. Beosound 9000 isn't a practical design at all.
I disagree completely. I think the design is brilliant, it is fast, and my unit has never failed. To be able to select 6 CDs for a dinner party and play them randomly is very good.
Living room: BV7-40 mkIV + V8000, BL5, BL3, BM1 and BS9000. Bedroom: MX3000 and BL4500 on MCL2-AV. Around: PentaIII, CX100 and MCX35 on ML/MCL + MCL2-A, BeoPort and BL4 on ML, BS3300 + M75 as stand alone, BC6000 + BC600 and BT1100, LC1, LC2, Beo4, Beo5 and BL1000, BS2 and A8, EarSet2, Apron, Coffee mugs, Enamel Bagdes, Bath towel, Keyring, Books, Lots of miniature and the Bottle opener. Office: BC2300 + BL2500 and BS3. Summer house: BS Century.
Addicted? Oh no.... ;)
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timhanna
- Joined on 11-28-2007
- London
- Posts 602
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
M P 3... M P 3... M P 3 I would never need to replace any CDs ever!
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
Christian: wonderfulelectric: What's so good about the Beosound 9000 that it should be kept in production? It fails to work every now and then because of some trapped dust and it takes kinda long for it to load its discs. Beosound 9000 isn't a practical design at all.
I disagree completely. I think the design is brilliant, it is fast, and my unit has never failed. To be able to select 6 CDs for a dinner party and play them randomly is very good.
A.mem is simply better for that function. BS9000 is realistically becoming unpractical and the CD changer is now a bit of a gimmick, i personally dislike the out of date product now, it's too old like BS3200! I used to love it, but now theres a better way to enjoy your music
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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jk1002
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Boston USA
- Posts 1,620
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Re: What will happen with BS9000
It is a different experience. Technically with loss less decoding there is no need for the CD. Practically, I like the CDs. I like to choose by cover. I get lost in my iPOD list. And I am overwhelmed by the quantity of songs. I like to have new cds stacked up close by my cd player. I know there are smart play list, coverflow etc. I just haven't found teh right solution yet for the home. Sonos and Apple TV & Ipod touch may work but it doesnt look like I would want it. BS5 has the potential, but only with 2 way remote functionality. And I dont mean Beo 5. That Tablet comes better off the podest. I think it will.
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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