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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 01-26-2010 3:22 PM by elephant. 8 replies.
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01-24-2010 5:02 PM
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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I always knew that my MacBook when attached to the BV8-32 gave me a higher desk top resolution that its native 1280x800 pixels.
I had also noticed there was a 1080i option when the BV8-32 was attached, but I had dismissed it because the desktop characters looked fuzzy or not as crisp.
The other day I tried the 1080i for showing video, and I captured two screen shots, and realised that the MacBook is certainly generating 1920x1080 images ... and that the MacBook "thinks" that the "Beovision 8" can handle them.
Does this mean the BV8-32 is secretly capable of handling 1080i ?
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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david coyne



- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Sydney, Australia
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Hello There
A few days ago i installed snow leopard and had to go through a similar process of checking the display options for my BV8-40 which is sometimes used as a monitor for my mac mini. I was confronted with the same choice and called B&O. They suggested resolution should be set to 1080p.
In relation to refresh rate however only three options were given:
24 hz
50 hz (pal)
60hz (ntsc)
No 100hz to be found!!!!! B&O suggested 60 hz ntsc, but this is an inferior format to pal.
Any suggestions???
David Coyne
BV8-40, BC6-26, BC2, Beolab 9's, Beogram 7000, Beogram 9500, Beoport, Beotalk 1200, Beocom 6000, Beolit 1000, 800, 700, 600, 400
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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Interesting !
My BV8-32 offered 50Hz PAL or 60Hz NTSC but no 24Hz
The other difference is my setting was 480i, 780i, or 1080i not 1080p
If yours was 1080p, and also offered 24Hz then it seems the software/protocol is smart enough to know the difference between a BV8-32 HD ready, and a BV8-40 true HD
I could tell no difference between the 50Hz PAL and the 60Hz NTSC - but that was not an extensive test
Nor could I actually tell a difference at the video/movie level between the computer screen display setting and the television display setting, which is what made me wonder if the BV8-32 unscrambles all the good work that the Mac OSX may be doing
The mystery deepens :D
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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dilznik


- Joined on 09-19-2007
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Maybe I'm not understanding the question right, but it's not a stealth thing. It's right on the website.
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/specifications?productid=26
8-32, 1080i.
8-40, 1080p.
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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dilznik:
It's right on the website.
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/specifications?productid=26
au contraire:
BeoVision 8 - Specifications
BeoVision 8 - 40"
RESOLUTION |
1920 x 1080 pixels (Full HD), refresh rate 100/120Hz |
BeoVision 8 - 32"
RESOLUTION |
1366 x 768 pixels (HD-ready) |
So I think you have mixed your horizontals with your verticals, to quote some of the wikipedia entry:
1080i is the shorthand name for a format of high-definition video modes. 1080 denotes the number of horizontal scan lines—also known as vertical resolution—and the letter i stands for interlaced. In the alternate format of high-definition video mode, known as 1080p, the p would stand for progressive scan.
1080i is a high-definition television (HDTV) video mode. The term usually assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, implying a horizontal resolution of 1920 pixels and a frame resolution of 1920×1080 or about 2.07 million pixels.
So the B&O site's description of 1366 x 768 pixels for the BV8-32 implies to me that it supports 720 p or i
I am happy to be corrected, but for me the mystery remains .......
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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tournedos


- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
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Well, I'll just mix you up more
The "1080i/p" and "720i/p" here refer to the video signal. The spec sheet resolution figures 1920x1080 and 1366x768 refer to the actual panel. The TV will need to scale the image in many cases anyway, so it can quite well accept 1080i (or p) and display it on a 1366x768 screen, as these are two different things.
Now, whether the 8-32 can accept a 1080i signal, I'll be damned if I know 
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dilznik


- Joined on 09-19-2007
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elephant:
au contraire:
BeoVision 8 - Specifications
BeoVision 8 - 40"
RESOLUTION |
1920 x 1080 pixels (Full HD), refresh rate 100/120Hz |
BeoVision 8 - 32"
RESOLUTION |
1366 x 768 pixels (HD-ready) |
Yeah but they're Samsung panels. The Samsung "HD Ready" panels, like their TVs, are 1366x768 and handle 1080i and just compress it down to that resolution.
1080i isn't really 1920x1080 anyway. It's 1920 by 540 and then it transmits the 540 odd lines and then the 540 even lines.
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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dilznik:
Yeah but they're Samsung panels. The Samsung "HD Ready" panels, like their TVs, are 1366x768 and handle 1080i and just compress it down to that resolution.
1080i isn't really 1920x1080 anyway. It's 1920 by 540 and then it transmits the 540 odd lines and then the 540 even lines.
Yes, I understand the interlace process which requires 1080 lines but for which for various processing or economic constraints its achieved in two steps.
You have an excellent point about the Samsung nature of the panels; clearly the Mac has produced the 1080 "bitmap" of some 2.6 megabytes. I will pick an area of small detail and see if I can detect just how much detail is lost at the display.
Thank you :)
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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