Try it with the BeoLab 11 then! I know a lot of people have recommended the Velodynes etc... but I really do think the BeoLab 11 is a fantastic subwoofer. Very, very discrete, tight and musical! Okay it's not going to put any cracks in your plaster, but you can't really push BeoLab 3s loud enough to make a big powerful sub worthwhile. BeoLab

Apples and Oranges sonically. The B&Ws focus more on time-domain distortion (transparency, resolution etc...) while the BeoLabs are more about tonality, off-axis response etc... I wouldn't really want to say one is better than the other, although the 802D really is especially superb...

Interesting comparison IMO! The BeoLab 3 + 11 combo gives you a little more flexibility of placement, and visually I prefer it (I love the BeoLab 3 in appearance). Both are excellent sounding setups, and I've heard both. BeoLab 9s are ultimately better, but the BeoLab 11 is arguably a little tighter down in the lowest frequencies (even if it can't

I really want one of those BeoMics! Absolutely wonderful sounding mics, although they'll probably need re-ribboning. Don't send them DC current/phantom power!

[quote user="Beoboiinoz"] I'd also opinion that by removing bass management with crossovers etc re setting all speakers to large, the overall sound detail and transient response improves as well - perhaps because of phase or other issues involved in the crossover process. [/quote] Agreed! I run a 'full range' system in my lounge

They're two surprisingly different speakers! They can be compared on a few levels, but I think they're actually quite different characteristically. The BeoLab 9 definitely has a sweeter tonal balance overall, far more coloured than the BeoLab 5, but you could argue much more forgiving and 'musical'. BeoLab 5s are one of the most linear

Having broken down a lot of surround sound mixes, you'd be surprised what often gets sent to the rear speakers! 70% of the time there isn't really much going on below 150 Hz (ie, not much bass at all), but occasionally you get really full-range content! House of Flying Daggers springs to mind. When you play the bean-throwing scene on a 5.0 system

It's not just the difference in ALT vs non-ALT. The BeoLab 9 bass enclosure is sealed. The BeoLab 2 uses passive radiators, and BeoLab 8000s are ported. The BeoLab 9 uses completely different crossover points. The cabinet designs are completely different and constructed out of completely different materials. The BeoLab 9 actually has higher Q until

[quote user="jjihonor"] There have been a lot of threads about Beolab 9 v Beolab 8000 + Beolab 2, but has anyone tried Beolab 9 v beolab 8000 + 2 Beolab 2s? It appears to be more economical to put the latter together on the used market but will it sound as good as Beolab 9? [/quote] Not by a long shot!

REL for movies, Velodyne for music IMO! Although both are excellent and can do either very well... The B&W subs are generally very good nowadays too! The ASW610 is maybe a bit small for a lot of rooms, but does sound very good. The ASW10CM is excellent.