thanks, i will get on to my local dealer in morning as the didn't give me the pin for either system

nope its brand new out of the box, ive got two , the other one flashes Pr in then 0000, this one was doin the same thing but when i entered numbers it came up with Err

just bought one of these but cant seem to get it off standby. . will not play cd or even star radio the display flashed _ _ . _ _ than the dashes disppear leaving the standby light, can anyone help?