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Latest post 04-30-2009 1:04 PM by koning. 41 replies.
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  • 04-22-2009 2:32 PM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    Have you seen it already Alex??

  • 04-22-2009 4:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    No, but the chassis is entirely new (just like the mk3 7-40"), and will form the basis of other TVs in the range.

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  • 04-22-2009 8:52 PM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    @ Rednik, I find this funny as well. I doubt the new one is on display already .... I think some of us missed the BIG NEWS THAT THERE I A NEW CHASSIS after 4 years of no updates.

    Sorry for screaming ......

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  • 04-23-2009 3:01 AM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    I walk by my local dealer everyday as it is on route on my way home and pop in about once a week. I have seen the new version and it is a lot better than the older versions, but side-by-side it still can't compete with a BV9s picture.

  • 04-23-2009 3:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    Is anybody there who knows some more details about the new chassis BV7-32 MKV ?

    My info now is 2 HDMI's and a downgraded BS3 - is this correct ?

    What about the panel, audio part ?

    Thanx

  • 04-23-2009 6:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    i must admit i didnt think it was a chassis update....the specs on the B&O website are still for the old version, Alex, have you got the new specs ?..you have my email address!

    do you know what has changed?..is it the rumoured cut-down BS3 ??

    andy

  • 04-23-2009 4:40 PM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    HeKoch:
    Is anybody there who knows some more details about the new chassis BV7-32 MKV ?

    - 2 HDMI, but with the DVI-I (with HDCP) conection as well, so it has three HD inputs.

    - Full HD

    - 100/120 Hz

    - DVB-T HD (where avalible)

    Jq. BS4 BL3 A8 Form2

  • 04-23-2009 5:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    I don't have the specs, but to be honest with you, all I would consider from specs is the connections - the other numbers (contrast ratio, viewing angle etc...) are all relatively useless as there are a hundred and one ways of measuring them! B&O only supplies them because consumers look for such things when looking at televisions (sadly).

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  • 04-23-2009 7:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    Easier still, follow your eyes - examine the TV with digital freeview sources, HD disc sources (Blueray) and HD Cable or Satellite sources. Don't buy it if your primary viewing source is poor, as nice as the other souces may be - remember it costs a lot, if you don't watch a lot of Blueray and your primary source is Freeview SD then weight your decision. By the time Freeview HD is commonplace then you'll probably need a new TV anyway. The frame looks nice but doesn't excuse a poor picture.

    If the new BV7-32 is right for you (not anyone else) then go for it!

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 04-23-2009 9:37 PM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    From my viewpoint, the Avant 32 RF DVD set is the TV to buy until something either equal in picture quality or better comes along. I bought the 7-40 Mark III when it came out and having used it for a while now I can honestly say that I am disappointed. How B&O can charge such a high asking price for such a low performing television amazes me. I got completly carried away with my passion for the brand and now I regret it.

    At the time of purchase I thought I could compromise on picture quality, particularly when watching SD content but I wish I had held back and waited a few more years. I have tried, and to some extent I can, but even digital pictures through Freeview and Sky are pretty poor I think. HD is better, but how long (realistically) and at what cost, must we wait for top quality HD broadcasts to become the norm and widely distributed for free? In my opinion, the 'HD phenomenon' has been nothing more than a clever marketing ploy to make more money for all manufacturers and broadcasters involved in the process. But the facts are that the majority of HD content is nothing more than upscaled SD recordings. We are being asked to pay more money for a technology that is worse than its predecessor! Madness.

    As a creature of habit I tend to watch the older programmes from the 70s and 80s. The Avant would have displayed these programmes and all those since with optimum picture clarity. Watching the Golf Masters Tournament on my Mum's Avant was far better than the 7-40 Sky broadcast in HD. the colours were so rich and vibrant - some of the best footage I have seen on an Avant to show off its capabilities.

    LCD and Plasma are nothing more than 'in-between' technologies during the interim period from tube television to whatever is the next UPDATED technology, which certainly is not LCD or Plasma.

    B&O do excel in their audio products but their TVs just don't cut it based on price and comparison in today's marketplace. You have to ask yourself if its worth paying a premium price for a non-premium product? I am not sure where I stand now in terms of my purchase. I have bought motorised stands, wall brackets and expensive bespoke furniture all to match the 7-40 that I now regret buying. I hope this reponse is informative to those considering a BV7 purchase at this time.

    I cannot comment on any updated models since they have not yet been released. How much better they are remains to be seen.

    Simon.

  • 04-23-2009 11:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    Hey simon good to see you're still around! Another great post, very well written - have you checked out the lastest 7 40"? Apparently it's a vast imporovement.

    Alot of B&O's flat TV's have been created, with serious teething issues into the new technology. They've done the best they can with what they have i believe. Certainly wouldn't have bought a beovision 7 when it was released though. B&O are an amazing company who make sensational products, but some of their creations are seriously flawed, as you've learnt yourself...

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  • 04-24-2009 7:36 AM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    the best lcd plasma are pioneer they just beat everything but people wont pay the extra cost hence there are  leaving the industry

    bno did there best but it plainly wasnt good enough  considering the silly prices for a bv7, pity it looked amazing with a great soundbar speaker

    its not all bad news what hifi consider bl9 one of the best in class and thats up against serious kit

    audiophiles do respect some bno products after all everyone specialises

     

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  • 04-24-2009 8:28 AM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    I keep reading negative comments about B&O LCDs on this site. I've not really looked that hard at B&O's larger models because that's not my preference, but the BC6-26 I have seems as good as most other brands - better than some in some respects, worse than others. But then I don't watch Blueray or Sky, just Freeview and CD DVDs.

    It is true, however, that LCDs and plasmas are unable to match the all round performance of a good CRT. That is a fact and I don't think it will ever be resolved. The new technologies are simply incapable of providing the fast response of a CRT and the image processing software used always has to make some compromises.

    In particular, LCD and plasma is very source dependent compared to a CRT. You have to decide whether the TV you are considering is acceptable to you when viewing the sources you will use. I think that's why some people here seem quite happy with their B&O TVs and others are very disappointed.

  • 04-27-2009 6:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    The_Beonic_Man:

    From my viewpoint, the Avant 32 RF DVD set is the TV to buy until something either equal in picture quality or better comes along. I bought the 7-40 Mark III when it came out and having used it for a while now I can honestly say that I am disappointed. How B&O can charge such a high asking price for such a low performing television amazes me. I got completly carried away with my passion for the brand and now I regret it.

    B&O do excel in their audio products but their TVs just don't cut it..

    A couple of things here, Simon.

    Firstly you've just bought a Beovision/centre 26. In theory, this picture is going to be even worse than your BV7-40. Why preach to others, when you keep sticking with brand yourself? Difficult to take the advice seriously :)

    Secondly, the BV7-40 will only display content 'as is' (that's also the downside of LCD). With a Blu-ray movie, the picture is absolutely superb. So to say that you're disappointed with your BV7-40 is not quite correct as there are few modern alternatives. Perhaps the BV9, but then it's close to £15k. If you primarily watch 70s and 80s TV programming, then any LCD will show the faults in the original recording.

    The massive advantage that modern LCDs and plasmas have over the old CRTs is the ability to show HD content. Look at a Blu-ray or HD movie on a BV4-65 and tell me if you can do the same on the old 32" CRT? There are advantages, but it depends on your intended source.

    You will still get a better picture on an old CRT with SD content. Even my 10-year-old Sony CRT, which I gave to someone in my family, shows SD content more vibrantly than my current BV7-40 MKIII.

    Life doesn't always follow the pattern you want, but you can't blame modern TV technology for displaying the flaws when you watch a lot of poor-quality low-bandwidth SD programming and old 70/80s TV!

  • 04-27-2009 7:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    Dave:

    ..but some of their creations are seriously flawed, as you've learnt yourself...

    ..but you keep on buying regardless..

    No point moaning, unless you're going to do something about it. I've heard Simon state he's not happy with LCD technology for over a year now (which is fair enough), but then go out and buy an even older BV6-26. Makes no sense.

    Indeed, the RF connection between BV7-40 and BV6-26 is going to generate a worse-than-SD performance. The signal on my BV8-26 from the BV7-40 is awful.

     

  • 04-30-2009 11:17 AM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    My comments are based on mistakes I have made with certain purchases. If I can pass those experiences on to someone else then I am happy to do so.

    I do regret my purchase of the BeoVision 7-40. The set's performance is not representative of the price I paid for it; the quality is simply not good enough.

    The BV6 will be used as a monitor with a MAC mini and either some BeoLab 4s or a pair of BeoLab 4000s on table stands.

    My original post stated my opinion about HD. I still favoured the Avant 32 RF DVD when watching the golf masters a couple of weeks ago compared to my 7-40 picture in HD.

    Simon.

  • 04-30-2009 1:04 PM In reply to

    Re: I have a BV7-32 plan....comments needed !

    moxxey:

    The_Beonic_Man:

    From my viewpoint, the Avant 32 RF DVD set is the TV to buy until something either equal in picture quality or better comes along. I bought the 7-40 Mark III when it came out and having used it for a while now I can honestly say that I am disappointed. How B&O can charge such a high asking price for such a low performing television amazes me. I got completly carried away with my passion for the brand and now I regret it.

    B&O do excel in their audio products but their TVs just don't cut it..

    A couple of things here, Simon.

    Firstly you've just bought a Beovision/centre 26. In theory, this picture is going to be even worse than your BV7-40. Why preach to others, when you keep sticking with brand yourself? Difficult to take the advice seriously :)

    Secondly, the BV7-40 will only display content 'as is' (that's also the downside of LCD). With a Blu-ray movie, the picture is absolutely superb. So to say that you're disappointed with your BV7-40 is not quite correct as there are few modern alternatives. Perhaps the BV9, but then it's close to £15k. If you primarily watch 70s and 80s TV programming, then any LCD will show the faults in the original recording.

    The massive advantage that modern LCDs and plasmas have over the old CRTs is the ability to show HD content. Look at a Blu-ray or HD movie on a BV4-65 and tell me if you can do the same on the old 32" CRT? There are advantages, but it depends on your intended source.

    You will still get a better picture on an old CRT with SD content. Even my 10-year-old Sony CRT, which I gave to someone in my family, shows SD content more vibrantly than my current BV7-40 MKIII.

    Life doesn't always follow the pattern you want, but you can't blame modern TV technology for displaying the flaws when you watch a lot of poor-quality low-bandwidth SD programming and old 70/80s TV!

    Are you satisfied with your BV7-40??

    do you think it's worth the money.

     

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