BeoSound 5 Forum

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Mr10Percent — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:15:46 GMT

There are a number of idiosyncracies in the Beo6 which I have discovered and once learnt make the experience richer.

1. Connecting Wifi with search was always a problem. auto/WPS code seems to work the best

2. Re-inserting the WPS code after every config download save.

3. You must download on a full battery. Otherwise, hard reset and a minimum of 4 hours solil plug-in-the wall recharging

4. Red and white N.Music buttons. One is for two-way emulation, the other is not.

5. That you cannot edit/re-program the two-way N.music submenu or page

6. Config products with check boxes (N.Music/N.Radio on Beo6 which uses TP2 and PH codes when your BS5 is recoded to CD and Radio codes)

7. Ditto with the BV10 using TV rather than DTV codes.

8. Select and Album or Artist on the 2-way N.music button - you must press and hold to get a submenu. Then the Beo6 will instruct the BS5 to play an album or to add to the queue

9. No idea how the Beo6 identifies the centre album (of three). Last uploaded is what I was told. However my "uploaded" album is not the one shown. Not certain what metafile/tag is controlling that.

I'm away from my Beo6 for a few weeks now with work but what would be excellent in my opinion is that the Beo6 volume wheel is relocated to the inner step_up/Step_down buttons on the navigation centre and the volume wheel is re-tasked to select the albums/tracks/queue up or down just like the BS5 wheel. That would be better than using the iPodesque strocking up/down on the glass panel.

speaking of which, the Beo6 glass panel does seem more resisitant to finger-print marks/glaze than the old glass on the Beo5.

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Razlaw — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:05:15 GMT

I had a similar question about the three covers. Here is the answer I received..

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/42812.aspx

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Stan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:24:31 GMT

I got my Beo6 working last night. My initial impression is that it is wonderful. I do hope they add similar functionality for N.Radio. Also, MOTS vs. no MOTS in the queue is a little confusing. It seems like, at times, MOTS just shows up... which wouldn't be an issue - I'd rather have MOTS than PAUSE, but once MOTS is in the queue, it seems to ignore additional songs (and you may not realize this until you've selected 3 or 4 songs only to have a different song play, then you look at the queue, and none of your songs are there). Also, I like the touch screen on the Beo6 much better than the squishy Beo5.

It was much easier to setup thanks to the info on this thread (like having to add the BS5 to the config AFTER you upgrade the Beo6 firmware - thanks Stefan), and the instructions on use... I didn't figure out the "long hold" vs. "short click" until I re-read Ingvar's excellent post. I would hope that I would have eventually figured this out, but so much quicker to learn from others experiences.

Any clue as to what the use and/or algorithm for choosing the 3 pictures on the main N.Music page (well, sure the left most picture is the currently playing song, but the other 2 seem to always be the same)?

Stan

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

pf85 — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:19:55 GMT

Razlaw:

What option setting do you have the 3200 in? Do you have TVs connected also?

I have a 5 and a 3000. If I connect both of them to the system it causes some problems. Such as, if I want to switch from a CD in the 3000 to N.Music instead of switching, the 3000 shuts off. Similarly, if I try to switch from N. Music to a CD, both the 5 and the 3000 shut off.

Thanks!

Razlaw, BS 3200 audiomaster, option 0 - BS5 audiomaster off. Both in the same room. Connected via BV7 as master.

The other way round with BS5 as master and BS3200 as slave did not work... it seemed to "double" commands on BS 3200 whenever I used it (skipping from 1 to 3 when fwd CDs).

I am not very well versed in the option programming, but the current setup is very stable

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

stefan — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 04:58:34 GMT

beojeff:

Griebel:
The difference is that you'll have to create a new queue once it has played.

I agree. The Beo6 wi-fi works great; however, there are some features of the BeoSound 5 that are lost. You have to go to the next screen of the Beo6 to find the "hidden" RED N.Music screen to be able to access playlists and MOTS. After living with MOTS for 2 years, I truly miss it when the music stops playing after using the 2-way wifi Beo6 function. It would seem to be a quite easy thing for B&O to integrate the WHITE and RED N.Music screens into one unified screen on the Beo6 to access playlists as well as MOTS.

You are right. It is quite easy to integrate the white and red N.MUSIC button. I renamed the white N.MUSIC button to SEARCH... and placed it to the first page of the "old" red N.MUSIC button. Now I have the old N.MUSIC button with an additional button called SEARCH...

But I`m sure, if Beo had exactly done this, a lot of users would have complained that you have to press two (!) buttons to access the two-way-function...

See my post above.

Stefan

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Carolpa — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:06:02 GMT

beojeff:
there are some features of the BeoSound 5 that are lost.

is the glass half empty or half full?

I would comment that you gain a lot. Before this, it was very basic to controll the BS5 with a remote; and for sure MOTS is integrated. Try Album, pick a song in the list and hold the button. A sub menu is displayed which also says............ MOTS!

I can't find major features which are lost!

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

beojeff — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:48:23 GMT

Griebel:
The difference is that you'll have to create a new queue once it has played.

I agree. The Beo6 wi-fi works great; however, there are some features of the BeoSound 5 that are lost. You have to go to the next screen of the Beo6 to find the "hidden" RED N.Music screen to be able to access playlists and MOTS. After living with MOTS for 2 years, I truly miss it when the music stops playing after using the 2-way wifi Beo6 function. It would seem to be a quite easy thing for B&O to integrate the WHITE and RED N.Music screens into one unified screen on the Beo6 to access playlists as well as MOTS.

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Razlaw — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:23:48 GMT

Bls connected to BV 10 and BV7. Everything connected by Masterlink. 5 and 3000 in same room as BV10.

I thought I had tried all combinations of Audio Master on/off and options including the one you suggested. I must have missed that one. It seems to work.

Thanks!

Only two issues, which I do not think can be solved, at least not without bringing in other issues, are:

As BV7 is the Master, spinning the wheel on the Beosound 5 itself turns the speakers on in the other room, where the BV7 is, instead of turning speakers on in the room where the BV 10 is.

If the BV 10 is set as Master, then the timer function in the 7 is lost.

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Carolpa — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:34:28 GMT

@Razlaw

I presume you'll have the BS5 and BS3000 connected to the BV7-55 and the BL's are connected to the BV7 also.

BS5 setting: AUDIO MASTER - OFF (so you do not have to set an option)

BS3000 option 0

It seems your system is confused about which BS is the audio master! Therefore it switches the way it does.

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Razlaw — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:55:39 GMT

What option setting do you have the 3200 in? Do you have TVs connected also?

I have a 5 and a 3000. If I connect both of them to the system it causes some problems. Such as, if I want to switch from a CD in the 3000 to N.Music instead of switching, the 3000 shuts off. Similarly, if I try to switch from N. Music to a CD, both the 5 and the 3000 shut off.

Thanks!

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

pf85 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:25:08 GMT

Stan:

Does this Beo6 stuff work with the BS5 regardless of whether it is an audio master?

In my setup (same room). BS 3200 as audiomaster, BS5 audiomaster no / music server no. Works well.

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Stan — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:35:18 GMT

Thanks for the info on the Beo6... yeah, I'm also leaning toward getting the CD ripper, too. Glad to hear your positive experience with this.

Stan

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

stefan — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:38:26 GMT

Stan:

I saw this asked on another thread, but never answered:

Does this Beo6 stuff work with the BS5 regardless of whether it is an audio master?

It would seem kind of strange if this were true... then again, the 3rd party / android / apple apps seem to only work completely when the BS5 set as the audio master. I'm not ready to get rid of my BS9000 yet, and it prefers to be master. I would really like this new Beo6 capability.

Stan

Yes. Two-way function works great in my setup. It`s a BS9000 (audiomaster), BV7-40 MKIII (videomaster) and BS5 - set to NO AUDIOMASTER and SERVER OFF. Does also work all over the haouse in all linkrooms - two video links and four audio links.

After upgrading your Beo6 with CT 5.12 you will find two (!) N.MUSIC buttons, a white one and a red one. The red one is the "old" N.MUSIC button with the color favorite lists, presets, etc. The whit white one is the new two way function. I found this a bit confusing, so I renamed the new N.MUSIC button to "SEARCH..." and placed this button to the first page of the "old" N.MUSIC button, which is now white again.

Pressing N.MUSIC will activate the whole system like before, but now there is an additional button called SEARCH...which activates the wifi function.

I think it`s a big improvement to the BS5 like the new CD ripper is. Just insert a CD and about a minute later the CD starts playing (from HDD) while ripping the rest of the CD. This depends on the settings in your BS5.

Enjoy the new wifi function.

Stefan

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

Stan — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:15:01 GMT

I saw this asked on another thread, but never answered:

Does this Beo6 stuff work with the BS5 regardless of whether it is an audio master?

It would seem kind of strange if this were true... then again, the 3rd party / android / apple apps seem to only work completely when the BS5 set as the audio master. I'm not ready to get rid of my BS9000 yet, and it prefers to be master. I would really like this new Beo6 capability.

Stan

Re: Anyone with an early user report re Beo 6 WLAN and Beosound 5 ?

pf85 — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:13:41 GMT

Got Beo 6 updated yesterday.

Works flawlessly with Beomaster/Beosound 5.

- Key benefit is really N.Music control...

- I would have appreciated N.Radio capabilities as well (mirroring Beosound 5 Radio Station selection process)

- MOTS and Que are working well, however, as mentioned in previous tags, lag is about 3-5 seconds until titles and album art show on the display

Overall a good capability enhancement, however, more to do !