BeoSound 5 Forum

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

Alex — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:12:21 GMT

I agree - CD is destined to the same market type as vinyl, although it will always be a little more prevalent IMO as it's closely tied in with digital media. Vinyl is so far detached from other formats nowadays that it can only be of any use to those who are dedicated.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

linder — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:34:17 GMT

beocool:
Alex:

I don't see why I would want to download an album when I can buy it for the same price or thereabouts and get a physical copy which is sonically superior.
Same here.

I agree also but in the not too distant future, the physical CD will be a rare item not unlike vinyl records. When A/V manufacturers, record companies, and software companies have concluded their squabbles, there might be high quality downloads everyone will buy without hesitation. In the meantime, I buy the CD from Amazon, rip it, and into a storage box it goes. Occasionally, I receive an email from Amazon asking it I would like to sell a CD that I had purchased. I think I might try selling CDs on Amazon if it is easy.

I have already purchased classical music from deutschegrammophon.com. The downloads are at 320 kps which include cover art and liner notes. I would prefer the downloads be lossless but the sound is very good as it is.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

beocool — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:48:51 GMT

Alex:

I don't see why I would want to download an album when I can buy it for the same price or thereabouts and get a physical copy which is sonically superior.

Same here.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

koning — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:59:00 GMT

@beofan2 BM5 handles different formats among them lossless.

Do you exactly know what lossless formats?

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

Alex — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:41:40 GMT

avus17:
I get MP3 files without charging as I download them with EMule or similar programme.

You can't say that's an option for everyone though. If it was, there wouldn't be any music...

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

PhilLondon — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:45:02 GMT

Alex:

I don't see why I would want to download an album when I can buy it for the same price or thereabouts and get a physical copy which is sonically superior.

It is about choice. many people are moving to dematerialised music. B&O would be ridiculed if it did not address people's new needs. I am not saying they should stop making CD players. For me a good setup should have the possibility to play CD, radio, N.MUSIC and N.RADIO.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

avus17 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:44:48 GMT

I get MP3 files without charging as I download them with EMule or similar programme.

Will MP3 files when bought on the internet get automatical to the BeoMaster 5? How will can I choose music files when BeoSound/Master 5 do not need a computer as BeoMsater 5 alreday has the internet connection?

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

Alex — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:38:20 GMT

I don't see why I would want to download an album when I can buy it for the same price or thereabouts and get a physical copy which is sonically superior.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

PhilLondon — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:37:10 GMT

Downloading MP3s off the internet, naughty boy!

Well, then instead of putting them on a USB stick, you have a program on your PC that transfer them wirelessly to your BM5. Et voila!

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

avus17 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:30:24 GMT

I download MP3 files from the internet and put them on memory key. No ripping needed.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

PhilLondon — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:05:24 GMT

avus17:

I hope the price for BeoSound 5 will be under 2.000,-€ otherwise they can forget big sales of this interface.

The price is more or less known, so no hope there....

avus17:
It also looks nothing special, but BeoSound 9000 looks as an icon and is already a classic B&O product.

You're comparing a product you have seen, with one you have only seen on a low quality picture. Those who have seen it all find it is a real B&O product and potential icon. The way it operates also seem to be part of the experience.

avus17:
Why rip CDs to computer if you can put 6 CDs in BeoSound 9000 and play emediately?

'cause someone's library can be larger than 6 CDs, and that with a multi room system, a media center saves you from getting up, going to another room and change the disk.

The same confort the remote control brought in the 80's.

avus17:
Other brands as for instance LOEWE offer Sond-Center solutions with CD drive, USB inputs, digital radio etc. No riping needed, just put MP3 files on your memory key and sound is here.

And how do you put the MP3 files on the USB stick in the first place? No ripping?

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

avus17 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:54:47 GMT

I hope the price for BeoSound 5 will be under 2.000,-€ otherwise they can forget big sales of this interface. It also looks nothing special, but BeoSound 9000 looks as an icon and is already a classic B&O product.

Why rip CDs to computer if you can put 6 CDs in BeoSound 9000 and play emediately?

And for MP3 files buying BeoSound 5 just to see albums on display? And on such small display which is hardly visible from a distance?

Other brands as for instance LOEWE offer Sond-Center solutions with CD drive, USB inputs, digital radio etc. No riping needed, just put MP3 files on your memory key and sound is here. Oh B&O why always Lego is your idol?

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

Beofan2 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:48:56 GMT

Sales of CD´s are going down, at least I know that´s a fact in Denmark. B&O of course have to deal with that scenario and launch products that deals with the way, at least most customers buy / will buy music in the future. That´s also the reason they choose to not launch new DVD´s but a simular solution for video..

BM5 handles different formats among them lossless. You don´t have to use MP3.

What do you mean that you have to buy another Lego?

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

jk1002 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:21:34 GMT

The price is just speculation even though that sounds about rght to me. The way I see the BS5 is, it is supposed to complement your existing beosound or beocenter not replace it.

When it comes to digital music from the internet, a good sound processor can do a bit, however the quality that it was ripped in is key. That is why I usually buy the CD and rip myself.

Yes you can get this cheaper, even with B&O. But then again, your buying the "user experience" which an apple tv or ipod or beoport will be sub par from what we have heard. For how long, that will be interesting to see.

Re: BeoVision 9 and BeoSound/Master 5

avus17 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:12:54 GMT

If so, I think BeoSound 5 is of use for me. And I think it will be for a big population as BeoSound does not have a CD drive (people have a lot of CDs), does not have a radio which still a lot of people get via cable as domestic stations are not all available via the internet and this way BeoSound 5 looks to me just like a better BeoPort+ 1/2 of BeoSound, I can simply connect my PC phones output to AUX input of my BeoSound 9000 and get NetRadio and MP3 playback very quickly (perhaps not a quality as via BeoSound 5), but much more cheaper. Or simplay buy BeoPort and the quality should be similar.

I still don't understand why B&O are making this BeoSound 5 interface, MP3 files are not offering the same quality as CDs. If I load music from the internet also in many cases happens that MP3 files are of very bad quality, how will B&O improve this files?

So in my opinion BeoSound 5 for 5.000,-€ no thank you B&O, perhaps as for world recession which is on it's way now a lot of B&O will very roconsider buying B&O products of this high price. And 5.000,-€ for another piece of Lego???