The Beo5 & Beo6 Remote Forum

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

adro — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:11:49 GMT

Keith,

Well I guessed it was something like that. I have looked at a few of your files, trying to figure out the structure/system .I have also made a few XML's of my own, but I had to do cut-n-paste. Then as you say, it takes a long time, and it is very easy to do mistakes, by leaving out a character or two.

I guess you do not want to share your software

Thanks

Atle

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:20:14 GMT

Atle,

I do NOT cut-n-paste within the XML file as this would take a very long time.

Some 2 years ago I spent several months developing a Windows based program which took much of the hard work out of creating full 3rd party XML with everything needed for that product pre-assigned. Below is a screen shot to allow you to understand how I do it. Also, if you open one of my XML files with a text editor you will be able to see the XML structure used.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

adro — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:34:34 GMT

Thanks Keith.

Ok, I can see the advantage of getting a file with pre-assigned hardkeys etc, but how do you program this in to the files?

Do you just manually type everything in, or is it cut and past, or?

Regards

Atle.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:55:30 GMT

Atle,

There are two main reasons for pre-assigning hardkeys, digits and logos within the 3rd party XML file before using it in the B&O Configuration Tool

The user can just drag-n-drop the 3rd party product in their existing configuration and need make no further modifications. So its just a matter of adding it to your existing configuration and downloading the configuration to the Beo5/6. Very quick and will take less that one minute to add and download.
Many changes you may wish to make to the 3rd party product within the Configuration Tool either don't work or work incorrectly.

All Beo5/6 configurations and product information is stored in a large number of XML files. When you add any product 3rd party or B&O to your main configuration you are effectively adding one XML file to another using the initial structure setup when you first created your zones.

So, you are now going to ask "What is an XML file?"

In simple terms XML stands for eXtensible Markup Language and is designed to transport and store data. XML defines a set of rules for encoding documents in a format that is both human-readable and machine-readable and is in a flat text file which can be opened with any text editor.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

adro — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:31:44 GMT

Hallo.

Keith, could you please explain the difference between having the hardkeys and digits etc. pre-assigned in the XML file, vs just program the keys in the Configuration Tool.

Rgds

Atle

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Martin — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:39 GMT

Especially the hard key assignment is really well done

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Martin — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:13:30 GMT

Keith,

It is now everything up and running! Thank you so much for your time and effort!! You are doing an amazing job around here :)

Thanks again,

Cheers Martin.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:54:03 GMT

Martin,

Thank you for confirming which remote you have for the Technisat.

I can confirm that I have made an XML file based on your remote which can be downloaded from HERE and extracted from the ZIP file as previously stated.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Martin — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 05:20:05 GMT

this is exactly the remote i use. i will try the sony xml meanwhile. i found these codes on the lintronic site which may be useful:

705 008 000 000 014 000 000

705 008 001 000 014 000 000

705 008 003 000 014 000 000

705 008 004 000 014 000 000

705 008 005 000 014 000 000

705 008 006 000 014 000 000

705 008 007 000 014 000 000

705 008 008 000 014 000 000

705 008 009 000 014 000 000

705 008 034 000 014 000 000

back

705 008 110 000 014 000 000

blue

705 008 033 000 014 000 000

channel down

705 008 032 000 014 000 000

channel up

705 008 121 000 014 000 000

display

705 008 081 000 014 000 000

down

705 008 052 000 014 000 000

fast forward

705 008 108 000 014 000 000

green

705 008 079 000 014 000 000

info_vor

705 008 085 000 014 000 000

left

705 008 082 000 014 000 000

705 008 013 000 014 000 000

mute

705 008 105 000 014 000 000

nav

705 008 116 000 014 000 000

705 008 087 000 014 000 000

705 008 010 000 014 000 000

opt

705 008 088 000 014 000 000

pip

705 008 053 000 014 000 000

play

705 008 012 000 014 000 000

power

705 008 055 000 014 000 000

record

705 008 107 000 014 000 000

red

705 008 050 000 014 000 000

rewind

705 008 086 000 014 000 000

right

705 008 047 000 014 000 000

sfi

705 008 038 000 014 000 000

sleep

705 008 041 000 014 000 000

still

705 008 054 000 014 000 000

stop

705 008 060 000 014 000 000

text

705 008 106 000 014 000 000

timer

705 008 035 000 014 000 000

ton_sound

705 008 083 000 014 000 000

tv_radio

705 008 080 000 014 000 000

705 008 017 000 014 000 000

volume down

705 008 016 000 014 000 000

volume up

705 008 127 000 014 000 000

www

705 008 109 000 014 000 000

yellow

705 008 126 000 014 000 000

zoom

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:16:33 GMT

Martin,

With regards to your 4th requirement, the Sony AV Receiver, you may wish to try the XML file HERE

You don't state the model, but this one may work

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:09:49 GMT

Martin,

My research appears to show that this device uses Philips RC5 protocol (Carrier Frequency 36 Khz) and uses a device address of decimal 08

Is the following remote the one with your unit ?

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Martin — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:26:07 GMT

it is the Technisat digit isio s1!

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:46:27 GMT

OK Martin..

What is the model number of the Technisat ?

We need to determine what protocol is used which I think is likely to be Philips RC6 protocol which is complex, but can be done.

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Martin — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:10:07 GMT

Hi Keith,

Thank you for the welcome and your help!

AppleTV and the Samsung TV are working now! Although the Samsung file doesn't seem to support all the functions... but it's more than good enough for the time being! I guess the Technisat won't be as simple, or is it?

Thank you again, cheers Martin!

Re: Beo 6 and Samsung TV + Technisat Receiver

Keith Saunders — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:46:51 GMT

Martin,

A Very Warm Welcome to Beoworld..

Controlling third party products that you have listed is not a problem, but you need to understand some of the limitations of the B&O Configuration Tool when it comes when trying to make changes to third party products. For this reason ALL 3rd party XML configuration files I produce will have hardkeys and digits and any other required elements pre-assigned, then it is just drag-n-drop within the Configuration Tool.

Lets start with the easy requirement you have and that is the Apple TV, you can download an Apple TV XML file HERE which is contained within a ZIP file. Extract the ZIP file to C:\ and it will automatically place the XML file into the correct directory of the B&O Configuration Tool.

In the Configuration Tool click on PRODUCTS then the tab marked OTHER and you will see Apple TV and you can just drag it into your configuration.

Once you have tested it, let me know how you get on and then we can look at your next product.