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Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

beoandy — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:08:51 GMT

@ keith: thank you! works great!

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Keith Saunders — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:38:44 GMT

Dear Beoworld Members,

I am pleased to provide you with the XML file I produced to recreate the REG commands which allow it to be used to make Beovision AVANT and Beovision 7 region free.

The one page instructions can be downloaded HERE and the associated XML file can be downloaded HERE

Please read teh instructions very carefully before you start the procedure.

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

beoandy — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:14:50 GMT

hi keith!

its possible to get the xml file too? (avant dvd 32 rf)

beoandy

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Thomas — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:04:35 GMT

Hi,

Keith was kind enough to provide me with the XML file for the Reg commands, and instructions how to use it, it all went very well and now my Avant is also Region free :-)

All the best

Thomas

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Keith Saunders — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:57:07 GMT

beojeff:

Thanks, Keith. My email is jcragen@mac.com.

I have sent you an e-mail and updated your e-mail address on Beoworld..

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Thomas — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 05:07:29 GMT

Hi Keith

Would it be to much trouble to make an xml for an 32 avant DVD mkII with the Reg command to make the Dvd region free ?

my emai: tho-las@online.no

All the best

Thomas

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

beojeff — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:02:55 GMT

Thanks, Keith. My email is jcragen@mac.com.

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Keith Saunders — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:53:14 GMT

I have sent you an E-Mail, but it was rejected because your e-mail address is apparently no longer valid. Please provide your new e-mail address.

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

beojeff — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:28:38 GMT

Keith Saunders:

Marc kindly arranged to capture the REG1 and REG2 codes with his IRtrans module and sent them to me.

I can confirm that I have converted then with the following results:-

REG1 has a HEX command code of 58 which is also used for the "Panel Off" command

REG2 has a HEX command code of FC

The Beo4/5/6 IR protocol has the capacity for 255 commands per device. It also has the capacity for 255 devices in theory.

Only five (5) device codes are in regular use in the typical system.

In the Beo5/6 Configuration Tool, I could find the "Panel Off" command but not the "FC" command. Where is it? Would you be willing to create and post an XML with a macro for making the BeoCenter 2 region-free, Keith?

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Keith Saunders — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:26:33 GMT

Marc kindly arranged to capture the REG1 and REG2 codes with his IRtrans module and sent them to me.

I can confirm that I have converted then with the following results:-

REG1 has a HEX command code of 58 which is also used for the "Panel Off" command
REG2 has a HEX command code of FC

The Beo4/5/6 IR protocol has the capacity for 255 commands per device. It also has the capacity for 255 devices in theory.

Only five (5) device codes are in regular use in the typical system.

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

mbee — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:55:12 GMT

I've sent a mail to Griebel as we are both in Paris and I can quickly capture the code with my IRTrans box, but he didn't reply... Wait and see!

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Stoobietoo — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:15:01 GMT

This is a long shot and may not be practical, but Philips ProntoNG remotes (& Marantz Equivalents) can learn B&O codes so if you can find someone nearby who has the remote it may be worth a try. It will need to be the ProntoNG versions not the older Pronto models. NG versions are:- RU950, RU960, RU980, RU990, [or US versions TSU3000, TSU3500, TSU7000, TSU7500] or Marantz RC5400 & RC9500.

I know they can learn the B&O remotes because I have the RC9500 and have owned the RU950 & RU980 which all learn & then control B&O, but I'm not sure how you would then extract the info you need from the resulting PCF file. I think you can export the file to a CCF which I think Keith knows about. You certainly can view and copy and paste the learned codes onto a word doc or spread sheet. For example the learned CD button from my BEO4 shows this :-

7000 0009 0000 000D 0003 0017 0005 0005 0001 0005 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0003 0004 0005 0004 0003 0005 0004 0003 0005 0002 0005 0010 0994

The learned RADIO code shows this:

7000 0009 0000 000D 0003 0017 0005 0005 0001 0005 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0003 0004 0005 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0003 0002 0005 0010 0994

and the learned A.TAPE code shows this:

7000 0009 0000 000D 0003 0017 0005 0005 0001 0005 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0004 0003 0004 0005 0004 0003 0005 0004 0004 0003 0002 0005 0010 0994

Keith will be able to tell you if that means anything and shows the type of data he needs. If this does look correct, it confirms the Pronto learns correctly and you can then find someone with one to help you or purchase second hand for your self and learn from your special Beo4. If my codes don't look correct, the Pronto make be "Faking" B&O codes just enough to contol B&O but not enough for your purpose.

I hope that helps a little (or even a lot)

Stoobie

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

mbee — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:35:49 GMT

I can try to capture that with my IRTrans module (it captures B&O signals, then, Keith, you can try to convert IRTrans to XML, as usual!) : I'm in Paris... Let's try to do that next week!

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

Griebel — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:44:49 GMT

Yes, I'm speaking about capturing. Actually, M. Lintronic confirmed that capturing BO remote commands is not possible, and he couldn't be sure that the special IR eye would be able to do the job, although of course it receives commands.

I have the special remote, but no capturing device. Too bad! It's the only special remote left for the dealers in the whole parisian area. I think I'll put it in a safe :-)

Re: REG 2 command of Beo4 for Beo5/6 remote

tournedos — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:16:16 GMT

Griebel:
Well, as far as BO remotes are concerned, this new update seems like a downgrade.

I went through the Lintronic web site a year or two ago, and as far as I recall back then they were selling a cheaper external B&O receiver, which to me seemed nothing but a TSOP7000 three-pin IR receiver IC hanging off a length of cable and a 3.5mm plug. This chip seems to be discontinued or at least has availability problems, which might also explain why Lintronic in the latest version has omitted the integrated B&O receiver (it's a lot of circuitry to implement with discrete components) and only offers the solution with an external B&O hockey puck.

However, receiving (possibly only predefined) commands and capturing them are two different things, and that will be a software issue. Earlier you said that according to Lintronic, the box won't allow capturing B&O commands - are you sure that the terms are right here and everybody understands what others are talking? Obviously the box can receive B&O commands, either with an internal or external receiver depending on the version.

It may only handle known commands, and this "REG 2" whatever is obviously a "secret" command that can only be sent by special service remotes.

I have a TSOP7000 connected to a small microcontroller board on my desk as I write, and could also capture the command, but alas, no remote...