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Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

gysse2004 — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 03:40:04 GMT

Thanks,

I will test it out

Peter

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Keith Saunders — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:48:58 GMT

Peter,

Yes, I am aware of this issue which is caused because when you switch a Panasonic TV ON it requires a long (about 2 seconds) press of the button even on the original remote. This is true for all modern Panasonic TV's

If there is a break in the Infra Red repeat ON signal to the TV it will NOT switch on. On the original remote, as long as you keep your finger on the Power button, it will continue to send the IR signal even if there had been a short break transmission caused by sunlight, movement of the remote etc. HOWEVER, as Panasonic uses a 48 bit protocol which is not supported by the Beo5/6 firmware, then RAW encoding is used which you cannot repeat by holding your finger on the button. In the file I provided I created the Power RAW encoded signal to send the command 8 times which means most of the time it would work, but as you found sometimes it would fail.

Clearly, this situation is unsatisfactory, so I have re-engineered the Power command to use the much more complex "Bitstream" encoding method which DOES allow a repeat if the button is held down (Pressed) on the Beo5/6.

You may test the new XML file by downloading it from HERE

Please provide feedback to this thread on how the updated file works. As before all Hardkeys and digit screen are pre-defined.

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

gysse2004 — Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:56:47 GMT

Thank you so much, it worked..exept sometimes turning the tv on dosent work.

peter

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

gysse2004 — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 02:50:59 GMT

thanks Keith, i will try that..

Peter

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Keith Saunders — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:21:09 GMT

gysse2004:

Do you have a ready made Panasonic Plasma tv XML file, that can do more then just turn the tv on or off - hard keys as well ?

Try the XML file HERE which has all the hard keys pre-Assigned

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

gysse2004 — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:30:39 GMT

Hi Keith

Do you have a ready made Panasonic Plasma tv XML file, that can do more then just turn the tv on or off - hard keys as well ?

Peter

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

BeoMedia — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:27:10 GMT

Hi Keith,

Sorry - I was not aware how the hard keys are to be coded. Perhaps if you could help me code the Panasonic plasma TV file (using ALL the hard keys) with the most obvious on hard keys.

This will then allow me (I hope) to see what is needed to code the ir-commands and I can do it for the other xml files and maybe change a few things on the Panasonic Plasma xml file. But please use all the hard keys so I know how to make use of all of these on other xml files.

Thanks! BeoMedia

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Keith Saunders — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:15:30 GMT

I can confirm that I have the files, but you did not say how you wanted the hard keys assigned ?

i.e. what hard keys to what commands etc

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

BeoMedia — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:55:19 GMT

Hi Keith,

Thanks - I already uploaded you working xml files for a Denon receiver, Panasonic plasma and Panasonic Blu Ray payer lasst week.

Please let me know whether you received them via your upload tool or if I should email them to you.

Thanks, BeoMedia

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Keith Saunders — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:59:37 GMT

BeoMedia:
How do I repair the XML's so I can assign them to the hard coded keys please?

I suggest you upload your completed XML file you have produced and tested which works correctly using the screen commands HERE and I will assign the hard keys in the XML file and then you will be able to see what I have done.

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

BeoMedia — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:22:26 GMT

Understood - thanks!
How do I repair the XML's so I can assign them to the hard coded keys please?

Is the process to assign to the hard coded keys within the XML, and then I will be able to drag & drop them (i.e. replace the e.g. volume up with something else once the XML has been repaired?).

Just trying to understand so I can start use my Beo5 which I am looking forward to - and so I can upload the finished product to beoworld.

Thanks, BeoMedia

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Keith Saunders — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:08:23 GMT

The values shown are in decimal 0-31 and also listed in hexadecimal which is 0 to 1F

Hexadecimal is binary to the power 16 and is denoted as 0 to 9 then A to F

So, 31 in binary would be 0001 1111 where 0001 = 1 and 1111 = F

In the XML file the address and command are defined in decimal ONLY so forget hexadecimal for RC5

I suggest you use the generic RC5 XML file and just edit the address and commands as you need them.

The assignment of the digits and hard keys needs to be done seperately within the XML file.

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

BeoMedia — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:44:46 GMT

Thank you very much for your help! With address 12 I managed to find the power on/off ir code. However, you write address as both a number between 0-31 AND as a code in the format of $10-16

What is the difference of these please? Which should I use in the generic RC5 xml please?

And, my XML files do not allow me to assign to the hard / physical keys of the Beo5 - how can I repair these xml files please?

Many thanks!

PS: When I am done I will upload my xml files to beoworld so other users can download and use these

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

Weebyx — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:15:08 GMT

Yes, offcourse :)

0-31 and 0-63, you made the same mistake id did, thinking of 64 when writing 0-63 :)

/Weebyx

Re: 3rd party XML - can these make use of the physical buttons on the Beo5?

guffas — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:50:30 GMT

Just as small correction: the ranges are 0 to 31 and 0 to 64.

If you are lucky these codes defined in the standard will work.

RC-5 Address	Device
$00 - 0	TV1
$01 - 1	TV2
$02 - 2	Teletext
$03 - 3	Video
$04 - 4	LV1
$05 - 5	VCR1
$06 - 6	VCR2
$07 - 7	Experimental
$08 - 8	Sat1
$09 - 9	Camera
$0A - 10	Sat2
$0B - 11
$0C - 12	CDV
$0D - 13	Camcorder
$0E - 14
$0F - 15
$10 - 16	Pre-amp
$11 - 17	Tuner
$12 - 18	Recorder1
$13 - 19	Pre-amp
$14 - 20	CD Player
$15 - 21	Phono
$16 - 22	SatA
$17 - 23	Recorder2
$18 - 24
$19 - 25
$1A - 26	CDR
$1B - 27
$1C - 28
$1D - 29	Lighting
$1E - 30	Lighting
$1F - 31	Phone

RC-5 Command	TV Command	VCR Command
$00 - 0	0	0
$01 - 1	1	1
$02 - 2	2	2
$03 - 3	3	3
$04 - 4	4	4
$05 - 5	5	5
$06 - 6	6	6
$07 - 7	7	7
$08 - 8	8	8
$09 - 9	9	9
$0A - 10	-/--	-/--
$0C - 12	Standby	Standby
$0D - 13	Mute
$10 - 16	Volume +
$11 - 17	Volume -
$12 - 18	Brightness +
$13 - 19	Brightness -
$20 - 32	Program +	Program +
$21 - 33	Program -	Program -
$32 - 50		Fast Rewind
$34 - 52		Fast Forward
$35 - 53		Play
$36 - 54		Stop
$37 - 55		Recording