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Re: OppoDigital BDP

dkkoo — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:53:59 GMT

Hello Keith

Thank you. I really appreciate with all your help.

Yes, I'm planning to upgrade my membership soon.

and thanks to you, I hope I can make own XMLs and share it with freiends here.

Have a nice day!

Re: OppoDigital BDP

Keith Saunders — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:22:45 GMT

There is not really a "Silver Bullet" completely. If you use RAW as the XML Generator uses and is available to Silver a Gold members, then you are making effectively an image copy of the original which works perfectly for all the basic functions, but as soon as you want to use a repeat function, then you have a problem because the repeated command in both RC5 and NEC protocol is different from the first command sent.

The timing data you captured is a raw image in decimal, but the B&O Configuration Tool only uses Hex. To help you understand the process I have converted your decimal captured string into Hex as follows:-

stIR='RAW:GlobalManual=1#ListOfFlanks=$22A0,$116B,$0226,$068F,$0225,$0228,$0225,$068E,$0226,$068E,$0227,
$0226,$0225,$068F,$0225,$0227,$0227,$068E,$0225,$0228,$0225,$0226,$0227,$0226,$0225,$068D,$0226,$0228,
$0225,$068E,$0227,$0226,$0227,$068F,$0225,$0227,$0225,$0228,$0225,$0226,$0227,$0226,$0227,$0226,$0226,
$068D,$0227,$0227,$0226,$068E,$0226,$068E,$0225,$0690,$0224,$068F,$0226,$068F,$0225,$068F,$0227,$0226,
$0225,$068F,$0226,$0227,$0225,$80E8,$22A1,$08B5,$0225,$17C7C,$22A2,$08B5,$0225,$18691
#IRSEQUENCE=RAW#Carrier=38000#Pause1=65000#Pause2=65000#Comment=RAW FlankList: 76 flanks'

The above command in RAW will NOT allow the ability to repeat by holding the key down, however as this command is actually NEC protocol which the Beo5 supports, then the very same command can also be added as follows:-

stIR="NEC:GlobalManual=1#IRSEQUENCE=NEC#BITS=010010101110101011111010000001011
#ALTBIT=#MARKFLANK=560#SPACEFLANK=560#SPACE2FLANK=1680#PRESIGNALHI=9000#PRESIGNALLO=4500
#Pause1=65000#Pause2=65000#Carrier=38#REPEATSIGNAL=0#Comment=NEC 32bits+Delay:
50ms+NEC:GlobalManual=1#IRSEQUENCE=NEC#BITS=1#ALTBIT=1#MARKFLANK=560#SPACEFLANK=560#SPACE2FLANK=0
#PRESIGNALHI=9000#PRESIGNALLO=2250#Pause1=30000#Pause2=30000#Carrier=38#REPEATSIGNAL=1#Comment=NEC 1 bit"

I hope this lets you understand that the conversion process is quite complex and I would suggest that if you just want a basic conversion you download the 3rd Party XML Generator available to Silver and Gold Beoworld members.

Re: OppoDigital BDP

dkkoo — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:41:52 GMT

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate.

I thought there's a "siver bullet" for converting the codes. but now I realized that is not a simple matter thanks to you.

I have some tools that can capture IR codes in RAW format.

the below is an example captured from a STB power button.

Would you please have a time to look at the data and see if it can be used to create XML file for Beo5?

# Protocol Device Sub Device OBC HexCmd EFC Misc Frequency

1 1 38144 NEC1 173 168 160 FA 221 38144

Raw Signal

8864 -4459 550 -1679 549 -552 549 -1678 550 -1678 551 -550 549 -1679 549 -551 551 -1678 549 -552 549 -550 551 -550 549 -1677 550 -552 549 -1678 551 -550 551 -1679 549 -551 549 -552 549 -550 551 -550 551 -550 550 -1677 551 -551 550 -1678 550 -1678 549 -1680 548 -1679 550 -1679 549 -1679 551 -550 549 -1679 550 -551 549 -41883 8865 -2229 549 -97404 8866 -2229 549 -399985

But when I compare it to one downloaded here I get stuck(the below example is Tvix 6500)

stIR='RAW:GlobalManual=1#ListOfFlanks=$2321,$11AA,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0692,$0242,$0678,$0242,$0228,$0242,

$0692,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0692,$0242,$0692,$0242,$0678,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0692,

$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,

$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,

$0242,$0228,$0242,$0228,$0242,$80E8,$2321,$08BB,$0242,$17BD9

#IRSEQUENCE=RAW#Carrier=38000#Pause1=65000#Pause2=65000#Comment=RAW FlankList: 72 flanks'

It seems they contain the same information but looks different.

How about converting the code in blue so that Beo5 can understand, would it be a hard task too?

Re: OppoDigital BDP

Keith Saunders — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:13:46 GMT

The codes you have found are "short List" Pronto codes meaning they do not provide the actual pulse timing, but provide the carrier frequency, product address and command code.

Whilst the codes you have found are valid "Short List" Pronto codes, most found on the web are "Learn't codes

If you have a learn't code, then the first word of the code string will always be "0000" if the signal is modulated and "0100" if unmodulated

If it is non zero, then it is a defined protocol or a proprietary defined by a vendor like Western Digital

Defined protocols include:-

0000 Learned code format (modulated)
0100 Learned code format (unmodulated)
5000 RC5 code format
5001 RC5x code format
6000 RC6 code format
6001 RC5 mode A code format
900A 32 bit NEC protocol

All values are in Hexadecimal and the second set of numbers "6D" is the carrier frequency definition. To calculate the actual carrier frequency in Khz you need to convert 6D ( 0110 1101 ) to decimal which is 108. Frequency is 1000000/(108*0.241246) = 38,380.98 Hertz

The Hex value of 43BC is the product address and is the same for all commands normally.

The last Hex value is the actual command. So for example the POWER command is 1AE5

So, you know all this information, but that now has to be converted into a format understood by the Beo5 Configuration Tool.

The NEC protocol format used in the Beo5 for each command takes the form of:-

<source_subItem stName="POWER" stCaption="POWER" stMenuCaption="POWER" stScreenType="0" stIR="NEC:GlobalManual=1#IRSEQUENCE=NEC#BITS=001111011100001010100111010110001#ALTBIT=#MARKFLANK=578#SPACEFLANK=578
#SPACE2FLANK=1708#PRESIGNALHI=8993#PRESIGNALLO=4496#Pause1=65000#Pause2=65000#Carrier=38#REPEATSIGNAL=1#Comment=NEC 32bits" stLeave="Rel 1" stIRVideoOp1="1" stIRVideoOp2="1" stIRVideoOp4="1" stIRVideoOp5="1" stIRVideoOp6="1" stIRAudioOp1="1" stIRAudioOp2="1" stIRAudioOp4="1" stIRAudioOp5="1" stIRAudioOp6="1" stIRVideoOp2Av="1" stIRVideoOp4Av="1" stIRVideoOp6Av="1" nPage="1" nX="0" nY="20" nWidth="213" nHeight="25" nRowFinal="1" nColumnFinal="0" stTextColor="255:255:255" nHidden="0" />

The format of the are reversed with the LSB (Least Significant Bit) first for both Address and command as below

The actual infra-red protocol transmission is in the form as below:-

In the above command example I have used the POWER command which decodes in binary to:-

00111101 11000010 10100111 01011000 1

Because the IR signal binary codes are the reverse to the XML binary codes and also inverted, so when you reverse the LSB and MSB you get:-

10111100 01000011 11100101 00011010 and now it must be inverted because coding method used for NEC protocol and you get:-

01000011 10111100 00011010 11100101 and you now have the address and command backward decoded to Hex 43BC 1AE5 which is what we started with for the POWER command you defined in your posting.

Clearly, no one would decode all these commands manually in the manner I have described, this is provided to show how complex the conversion is.

OppoDigital BDP

dkkoo — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:57:07 GMT

HI all

I am trying to convert the hex codes of its remote to beo5.

But I'm too much confused how to handle the code.

Do I need to change the format to RC5?

Here are the Codes from its manufacturer and there's also classic hex codes.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu%2Dray%2Dbdp%2D83/blu-ray-BDP-83-Support.aspx

They list all the codes on their support page.

if someone could help me converting some of them to an Xml File for the Beo5 would be much appreciated.

Thank you in Advance !

Key	Hex Key Data	Decimal Key Cmd	Pronto TSU3000 Code
Power	1A	26	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 1AE5
Eject	1B	27	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 1BE4
Setup	00	0	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 00FF
On	5A	90	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 5AA5
Off	5B	91	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 5BA4
Source	11	17	900A 006D 0000 0001 43BC 11EE