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Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

rayfenwick — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:54:16 GMT

Louise Scheele:

You must be giggeling thinking "this is why b&o is for men and not female nurses".

No, definitely not. I think I speak for everyone when I say the more women appreciate B&O the better (my wife complains much less than before as she is starting to appreciate my "collection".

Louise Scheele:

But thanks for your time - greatly appreciated.

That's what Beoworld's here for

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:20:47 GMT

Dear Vienna

Thank you - that solved the problem. I think I will use the "Beo4-AV-V.MEM"-solution rather than the "IR-damper"-solution.

But both are superbly conceived. If I meet other Danes I will tell them the solution to their problem - without revieling my source - ao I can stand in the rays of your sun (if it is ok with you).

Thank you very much indeed - without your help I would have had a depression.

Problem solved - vase closed.

Kind regards

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Vienna — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:26:17 GMT

If "A-Opt" at the BM4500 is really set to "1" the BM should not react on any video commands like "V.Tape"

Please disconnect the MCL wires to the Linkroom and the 2nd 1611 to the other Linkroom - only the TV and the

BM4500 are then connected via the 1611 Converter - as I mentioned before - during testing always KISS

(Keep It Straightforward and Simple)

Please set BM to A.Opt 1 again , set the BV 7-32 to "V-Opt" "1" and check the response of both units -

LED "twinkling" on the BV and "1" on display of BM 4500.

Then unplug the power of both units and the 1611 for a minimum of 1 min - connect to power again and wait

1 min before sending any commands by your remote - check if BM is still responding to "V.Tape"

If it does not respond you can proceed with the suggestions of my previous posting,

If the BM 4500 is still responding to video-commands (they should be ignored unless AV has been pressed before)

then your BM4500 is faulty and needs to be serviced

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:07:18 GMT

Dear Stefan

You said , you have linked your BV7 via a BL converter to the BM4500.

"Beovision and Beomaster are linked: Beomaster - datalink - 1611 converter - masterlink Beovision"

AND your BL2000 is connected via a second BL converter to the same BM4500

"3) To Beomaster 4500 is linked Beolab 2000 via 1611 converter"

So you have two AUDIO AUX LINK cables to one Beomaster (???):

"The BLB2000 and the BV32 is connected by each their own 1611."

But the BM4500 has just a single AUDIO AUX LINK plug. How did you do that?"

I just bought a y-data-link-cable - 10 Euros.

The reason for the two converters is due to the incremental development and thus the physical lay-out of the cables - otherwise you would have very much right. My bad planning (lacking funds).

Regards

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:01:10 GMT

Good idea. Unfotunately the bm4500 also reacts on a "v-tape"-command

however, I think your suggestion on getting an ir-damper and the solution I will end up using: cheap, easy and intuitive. Good thinking.

Thank you very much, indeed.

Kind regards

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Vienna — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:54:06 GMT

Dear Louise,

A.OPT1 / V.OPT1 + "AV" is not working

One last attempt ...

What command are you using to turn on your STB ?
Is "SAT" or "V.MEM/V.TAPE" or "V.AUX" ? Can you chose which command starts the STB?

- If there is a choice in your STB for the starting command - assign the command "V.TAPE" or "SAT"

- Go to the connections / sockets menu of your BV and make a note / a picture of your current config
(all settings of all AV inputs to be able to restore your setup easily)

- Set all AV inputs in the BV7 menu to "none" exept the one you use for your STB
- Assign the same command as chosen in your STB - "V.TAPE" or "SAT" to that AV input.

Start your STB by "V.TAPE" (V.MEM on newer Beo4) or "SAT" to get the picture
Start the sound by "AV" followed by "V.Tape" or "SAT"

If, for whatever reason, this does not work - set the A.OPT and V.OPT back to 2 (you mentioned, you are getting
the sound this way) - reduce the size of the IR outlet provisionally using some cardboard & tape.

Buy this IR Damper ItemNr 3160078 (black plastic cap) used in B&O Shops for a few DKK

And, in the meantime - Happy Easter

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

stefan — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:37:11 GMT

Nice idea. But I`m afraid rewiring your whole house would be easier.....

There is one question I have:

You said , you have linked your BV7 via a BL converter to the BM4500.

"Beovision and Beomaster are linked: Beomaster - datalink - 1611 converter - masterlink Beovision"

AND your BL2000 is connected via a second BL converter to the same BM4500

"3) To Beomaster 4500 is linked Beolab 2000 via 1611 converter"

So you have two AUDIO AUX LINK cables to one Beomaster (???):

"The BLB2000 and the BV32 is connected by each their own 1611."

But the BM4500 has just a single AUDIO AUX LINK plug. How did you do that?

Why not try : BM4500 - AUDIO AUX LINK - BL converter - ML cable - ML junction box split - 2x ML cable BV7-32/BL2000 ??

The only thing you need to buy is a cheap ML junction box....and you save a BL converter.

And I`m sure this setup would work. I had a similiar setup some years ago with a BV7-40 MKII, BS7000 two way, BL2000/3500 and some MCL2As connected to the BM7000.

Stefan

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:54:31 GMT

Dear Vienna - and the rest of you

I would very much like to keep my physical setup - i.e. no re-wiring, no moving of speakers, no procuring of expensive concererts and so forth.

Could this work: I have the physical diagram for the BM 4500. I am considering asking my neighbor who is an electronic technician to construct the following: a relae (switch) that turns of the outgoing IR-diode in the BM4500 when any in-going activity is registered on the in-going datalink connection. And vice versa - when no in-going activity on the datalink connection the out-going IR-diode should be turned on again.

Or is this just a depressive distortion?

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:58:53 GMT

Dear Vienna

That answer gives me gose bumps after all the existing wiring jobs and the investments...

...I pray to the Lord that there exists an easier solution than that.

Ypurs sincerely

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:55:30 GMT

Just tried it. No sound. Not even if I manually pressed aux on the Beomaster4500.

But thank you for still trying to help me.

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Vienna — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:28:36 GMT

Dear Louise

at the moment, as Peter mentioned V.Opt 1 / A.Opt 1 and pressing "AV" to get the sound is the only solution

But, having to press "AV" all the time cannot be regarded as satisfactory solution anyway ...

The only "nice to operate" configuration will be: get a second hand MCL2P Poweramp, a ML/MCL-Converter or a ML-Passive, connect it through a fully mounted PL-Cable to your TV and connect your CXs to the Amp.

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:01:39 GMT

dear peter

yes, i have the guide and followed its direction (as my first attempt in vain)

but thank you for trying

best regards

louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Peter — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:55:04 GMT

Just ran your system through the Product Configuration Guide. It suggests option 1 for both the 4500 and BV7. You would then use the AV button to get TV sound. Have you downloaded the PCG? You enter your system and it tells you how to set it up. It only runs on Windows - just had to use Boot camp for the first time this year!!

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:51:20 GMT

Dear Vienna

"(your Set Top Box is also operated/controlled via the IR of the BV !)" - my STB is a Triax 409 which has its own IR-eye which does not receives commands from the BV as it is not supported by the BV. The STB controlles the BV via a Scart cable.

Kind regards

Louise

Re: Option settings between generation in complicated setup - help!

Louise Scheele — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:46:06 GMT

Dear Vienna

Great idea. I tried it out. I could change the BV to option 4, but it did not respond accordingly (it is a mk1) - I tried with a Beo4 and Beolink 1000, but alas.

However, good thinking - if I could make it work like that I would be very happy.

Kind regards

Louise