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Bang &amp; Olufsen products at component level.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/281195.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:22:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:281195</guid><dc:creator>Premiumverum</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/281195.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=281195</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Steffen:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Premiumverum -how did you&amp;nbsp;strip the paint?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check these out:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/27958.aspx&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/11846/88033.aspx#88033&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All info you need should be in there! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/281179.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:30:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:281179</guid><dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/281179.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=281179</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;joeyboygolf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Medogsfat:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agree 100% with Graham - condition is king with these.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I beleive an unopened/boxed Beogram 4500 sold for @ &amp;pound;1,200 on ebay not so many months ago which is over 3 times the new&amp;nbsp;price&amp;nbsp;in 1991 (&amp;pound;360 back then).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My memory says it was a BG9500 so not even with the RIAA fitted!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Makes mine look too cheap then?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh - It&amp;#39;s nice to live in Denmark &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; Last year I bought a fully functional Beogram 9500 for 2000 Dkr (around &amp;pound; 200) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Steffen&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/280144.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:07:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:280144</guid><dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/280144.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=280144</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Premiumverum:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;joeyboygolf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This has been done by one of our members, although I have not seen the result.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here it is! Worked fine, the shiny panel looked really nice. No guarantee though, the guy I sold the beomaster to later told me the panels turned down in the quality check for BM4500 were sprayed flat gray and used on the 3500 so I guess you&amp;#39;ll never know what you find. Everyone I read about on the forum here who did this trick was pleased with the result though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Premiumverum -how did you&amp;nbsp;strip the paint?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279055.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:51:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279055</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279055.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279055</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Medogsfat:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agree 100% with Graham - condition is king with these.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I beleive an unopened/boxed Beogram 4500 sold for @ &amp;pound;1,200 on ebay not so many months ago which is over 3 times the new&amp;nbsp;price&amp;nbsp;in 1991 (&amp;pound;360 back then).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My memory says it was a BG9500 so not even with the RIAA fitted!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Makes mine look too cheap then?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279053.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:51:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279053</guid><dc:creator>Medogsfat</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279053.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279053</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Agree 100% with Graham - condition is king with these.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I beleive an unopened/boxed Beogram 4500 sold for @ &amp;pound;1,200 on ebay not so many months ago which is over 3 times the new&amp;nbsp;price&amp;nbsp;in 1991 (&amp;pound;360 back then).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279024.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:05:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279024</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279024.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279024</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Leslie:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;joeyboygolf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two mint mint turntables for sale and two very good turntables at half the price. The only real difference is the quality of the lids!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham, Why are these 4500 turntables so bl..dy expensive. Is it just because of the mirror finished top plate or are there any other quality items comparing to the 3300/3500 series. Have a 4500 set in my collection, only the record player is missing&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have 2 Beograms 9000 (mint &amp;amp; hint) which does not match with the 4500 &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leslie&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Beogram 4500 does have the RIAA pre-amp fitted and is thus plug and play&amp;nbsp;compatible with all modern B&amp;amp;O audio. The Beogram 9000 does not have the pre-amp and also&amp;nbsp;is not so aesthetically pleasing in my view. The mechnics of these turntables are identical.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would you want a mirror covered in scratches to go with your posh new bit of B&amp;amp;O kit???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don&amp;#39;t care then buy a cheapie but if you want the best...........?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279023.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:03:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279023</guid><dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279023.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279023</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Also, what can be done to make my Beograms 3000/3300 have the same looks as the 4500. Just replace the top plate with a mirror finished one?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279022.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 02:53:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279022</guid><dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279022.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279022</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;joeyboygolf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two mint mint turntables for sale and two very good turntables at half the price. The only real difference is the quality of the lids!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham, Why are these 4500 turntables so bl..dy expensive. Is it just because of the mirror finished top plate or are there any other quality items comparing to the 3300/3500 series. Have a 4500 set in my collection, only the record player is missing&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have 2 Beograms 9000 (mint &amp;amp; hint) which does not match with the 4500 &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leslie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279019.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 02:45:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279019</guid><dc:creator>Premiumverum</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279019.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279019</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;joeyboygolf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This has been done by one of our members, although I have not seen the result.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here it is! Worked fine, the shiny panel looked really nice. No guarantee though, the guy I sold the beomaster to later told me the panels turned down in the quality check for BM4500 were sprayed flat gray and used on the 3500 so I guess you&amp;#39;ll never know what you find. Everyone I read about on the forum here who did this trick was pleased with the result though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279015.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:59:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279015</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279015.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279015</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Believe me, they are no longer available and haven&amp;#39;t been for some years. It doesn&amp;#39;t matter where you live, they are not available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hence , mint examples of any item in the series fetch premium prices. The only possible exception could be the cassette player which has a limited market nowadays.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two mint mint turntables for sale and two very good turntables at half the price. The only real difference is the quality of the lids!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are desparate, you can purchase a 3500 series component, remove the lid and strip the paint!! 3500 series is cheaper than 4500.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This has been done by one of our members, although I have not seen the result.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You may find a dealer, somewhere in the world, who ordered one for a customer who never returned to collect it. On the other hand, you may be able to find a needle in a haystack!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279009.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:39:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:279009</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/279009.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=279009</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for replying!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My local dealer told me &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; for almost everything I asked about&amp;nbsp;right off the top of their head. Soon after that, they ceased to exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will try another dealer, the next closest store is beyond 100 miles from me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I bet these parts are much more common in Denmark!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/278396.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:44:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:278396</guid><dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/278396.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=278396</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;About the mirror panels: they&amp;#39;re not stainless steel, but polished aluminum. I don&amp;#39;t know if they&amp;#39;re still available from B&amp;amp;O -but they were&amp;nbsp;3 years ago, when I bought one for my&amp;nbsp;BG4500CD. So, contact your local B&amp;amp;O dealer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Steffen&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Beomaster 4500</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/254257.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:57:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:254257</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/254257.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=42&amp;PostID=254257</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I recently tinkered with my BM4500 and got it 100% functional last night (mostly just radio function issus). So before I close it all back up and re-apply the glass touch panel for good, I have a few questions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Should I have it re-capped? (I don&amp;#39;t have much soldering experience)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where could I find a replacement stainless steel mirror panel? And for my BG4500CD?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anything else worth doing?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;E&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>