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Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Alex — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:30:00 GMT

I tend to prefer a slightly drier sound though.

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Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:47:49 GMT

Alex:
Actually they reminded me more of:

Note how precise and directional the beam is. Great design!

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Alex — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:39:05 GMT

Actually they reminded me more of:

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:23:38 GMT

jandyt:
Up periscope!

Fire One! Fire Two!

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@ Alex - and when you check out the price of the Overkills, and add the amp's, the DSP processing unit, the room correction module ... then you really start wondering. The guy who designs them is very serious about his work, though. He travels to all his clients setting them up - no matter where they live.

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Jandyt — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:17:39 GMT

Alex:

I don't like the christmas decoration on the top either, absolutely hideous.
The 40th anniversary B&Ws are pretty disgusting too actually.

Up periscope!

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

j0hnbarker — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:09:34 GMT

Alex:
I don't like the christmas decoration on the top either, absolutely hideous.

The 40th anniversary B&Ws are pretty disgusting too actually.

Looks like it's made from a section of drainpipe. Mind you, the B&W Nautiluss speakers aren't that easy on the eye either. Where do they get their inspiration from? 1960s vintage electric bar fires, downpipes, seashells....???

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Alex — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:01:03 GMT

I don't like the christmas decoration on the top either, absolutely hideous.

The 40th anniversary B&Ws are pretty disgusting too actually.

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

j0hnbarker — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:49:41 GMT

Oh dear.......that wood veneer is absolutely ghastly :P :P :P

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:36:41 GMT

Yes, I know the feeling. Have never managed to get comfortable with the new electrostats myself, though the Quad ones have wonderful sound. Electrostat design today is function over form. You need the panels, you need the "see through", and in the case of the Martin Logans you need the curvature, which spreads the sound a bit more. (One weakness of traditional electrostats have been their very narrow sweetspot).

I'm very happy with my BL5s as my main speakers. They just sound better and better as I compare them with other designs.

What's fun though is that there are definitely a lot of different ways of interpreting speaker design. Have you seen the Overkills?

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

j0hnbarker — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:21:32 GMT

soundproof:
I heard the QUAD 2905s the other day. Spot on sound.

An acquaintance has Martin Logan Vantage speakers as the main speakers in his home movie setup. He's riveted by their sound. I prefer the BL5s over his.
The Martin Logan top end speakers have ICEpower driven bass:

The DM70s are forebears to these. BTW - the veneer ones in the photos are not the Continental model. The Veneer version of that one has woodwork like a Guarneri viola.

I've got to bow to your better judgement here, as I've not heard any of these speakers, so can only comment on their appearance.

I will say that the DM70 Continental looks much better than the hideous veneered variant, which really could pass for an old electric bar fire without any problems. I think you'll end up with a nice match with your Beolab 5000 system (which you'll remember I have next on my most wanted list - and simply drool over that and your BG 4000!), as the black sides of the BM/BL 5000 will marry with your black DM70s

Not convinced by those modern electrostatic speakers though....those ones with the block of wood and the hideous wire mesh are absolutely revolting, and so far away from anything ever made by B&O it's untrue! I have a knife block that is a more attractive lump of wood :P

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:13:14 GMT

Double post.

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:58:13 GMT

They need to be fed right. I've been told the precise bass of the Beolab 5000 will connect nicely with these speakers. In two months I'll know!

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Alex — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:35:08 GMT

The hi-end was pretty spectacular, I remember that much. Maybe it was wrong amp matching? It was an old unmarked (other than the brand) Linn power amp, running off an Allen & Heath desk and a Unidisk source (weirdest combination of kit I've ever seen, but it was kinda makeshift).

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

soundproof — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:07:53 GMT

I heard the QUAD 2905s the other day. Spot on sound.

An acquaintance has Martin Logan Vantage speakers as the main speakers in his home movie setup. He's riveted by their sound. I prefer the BL5s over his.

The Martin Logan top end speakers have ICEpower driven bass:

The DM70s are forebears to these. BTW - the veneer ones in the photos are not the Continental model. The Veneer version of that one has woodwork like a Guarneri viola.

Re: B&W DM70 with Beolab 5000

Peter — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:52:59 GMT

Quite a few still going! Martin Logan and Quad for starters! (Though Quad is not the same company really!) Quite a few top end speakers use them in conjunction with a sub woofer as the problem with electrostatics is the amount of air they move - or rather don't! Personally, I think ESL63s are fine all by themselves but some people prefer more bass. The DM70 uses a big cone and an electrostatic element to deal with the top and midrange. And yes, these are definitely collectors items!