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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Vintage Products</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/30.aspx</link><description>A Forum for Technical Help and Support on Bang &amp; Olufsen products over 25 years old.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342877.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:40:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342877</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342877.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342877</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Forgot again, horisontal and vertical gap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342876.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:36:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342876</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342876.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342876</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Bigger holes than the screwes or bushes you put there, give a 1.0 Mm gap or better 1.5 Mm to be more flexible. Its not that important just give gap.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342875.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:54:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342875</guid><dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342875.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342875</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Soren-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How does the top bar, where the screws attach the stand to the speaker allow for a change of angle?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342869.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:06:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342869</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342869.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342869</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;One more time, my speakers bottom is 250 Mm from the floor&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342860.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:16:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342860</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342860.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342860</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I forgot, the tilt angle of the upright is 3 degrees&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342859.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:14:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342859</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342859.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342859</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Read &lt;a href="http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/35659.aspx"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And here is for S45, check the foot print of your speaker, make the foot accordingly, if your speakers has threaded holes, check size (M5) if not you will have to make some and insert a threaded insert from the inside of the speaker (Home Depot) or use wood screws, the holes in my S45s are exact in the middle of the speakers hight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342823.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:06:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342823</guid><dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342823.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342823</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I see from the pics how to adjust the angle, but how does the bar that screws to the back of the speaker accomodate the different angles? Does it pivot?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342820.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:56:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342820</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342820.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342820</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;They&amp;#39;re adjustable.&amp;nbsp; From the service manual:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Adjust the tilt of the speaker so that the lower portion of the cabinet is perpendicular to a straight line to the listening position.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342818.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:40:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342818</guid><dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342818.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342818</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Just purchased 2 pairs of S75&amp;#39;s. No stands, but the speakers are perfect. I am the IT guy at a metal fabrication company. I have pictures of the stands, but no other info. Does anyone have measurements of the stand and the angle the speaker sits at? If so, I can fab a couple of pair for me or anyone else who needs them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342573.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:36:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342573</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342573.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342573</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;S&amp;oslash;ren Mexico:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still waiting for mine to arrive&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t worry, it is worth the wait!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342569.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:43:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342569</guid><dc:creator>Søren Mexico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342569.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342569</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Still waiting for mine to arrive&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342565.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:19:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:342565</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/342565.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=342565</wfw:commentRss><description>Well Soren, just thought I would let you know I bought a new CD a few days ago &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;Hey, at least it&amp;#39;s a spinning disc &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt; Close enough!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341810.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:52:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341810</guid><dc:creator>Søren Hammer</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341810.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=341810</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Evan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Rich:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As long as you can say in the end, &amp;quot;It was gorgeousness and gorgeousity O my brothers!&amp;quot;, does it really matter where your hi-fi budget goes?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In all seriousness, do you see yourself collecting vinyl records EVER in the future?&amp;nbsp; Do you have a friendly local used record store (FLURS)?&amp;nbsp; If you can&amp;#39;t answer both questions with &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot; with 95% confidence, then don&amp;#39;t buy a turntable.&amp;nbsp; With apologies to Eugene:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;even if it completes the set&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If it were me, I&amp;#39;d get the Maggies, if I had the room to set them up in.&amp;nbsp; Unbelievable 3D soundstage with acoustic music, in the right room.&amp;nbsp; Never heard them with electric rock and roll (which is what I primarily listen to).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have always wanted a huge tangible&amp;nbsp;music collection. I prefer CDs for purposes of ripping and convenience,&amp;nbsp;etc. But with the way my interest in audio has been going in the past&amp;nbsp;few years, I&amp;#39;m pretty sure I will end up collecting vinyl too! There is a music shop right on campus and at least one other on High street that&amp;nbsp;I know of. So vinyl supply is good &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as tables go I have a few picked out. The only B&amp;amp;O table I am really interested in is the 1202. Apart from that, I have discovered the Music Hall company and their MMF series, although I seriously doubt I&amp;#39;d fork out that kind of cash.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding the maggies:&lt;br /&gt;Problem 1) The ones for sale are pretty hard on my eyes. I think that particular pair is a bit too vintage for me. There&amp;#39;s a pair of MG-C1s available for roughly twice the price..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Problem 2) Space - There simply isn&amp;#39;t any! With the location these would be put into, there would be absolutely no room for my BeoVoxen. And&amp;nbsp; even more problematic, they would be operating in a space that is roughly 9&amp;#39; x 18&amp;#39;. I&amp;#39;m sure there would be no lack of bass!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not problem 1) Budget - I am about to toss all of my 5.1 kit (good&amp;nbsp;bye!!!!)&amp;nbsp;onto craigslist so the dollars should even out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CD&amp;#39;s are out, dude! I prefer cassette tapes recorded on my Beocord 8004&amp;#39;s and 9000&amp;#39;s!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Beogram 1202 is also a stunning piece, I would also like one, but the budget is rather small because most of my money goes to keeping my tangentials working to their best &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341780.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:56:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341780</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341780.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=341780</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Rich:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As long as you can say in the end, &amp;quot;It was gorgeousness and gorgeousity O my brothers!&amp;quot;, does it really matter where your hi-fi budget goes?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In all seriousness, do you see yourself collecting vinyl records EVER in the future?&amp;nbsp; Do you have a friendly local used record store (FLURS)?&amp;nbsp; If you can&amp;#39;t answer both questions with &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot; with 95% confidence, then don&amp;#39;t buy a turntable.&amp;nbsp; With apologies to Eugene:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;even if it completes the set&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If it were me, I&amp;#39;d get the Maggies, if I had the room to set them up in.&amp;nbsp; Unbelievable 3D soundstage with acoustic music, in the right room.&amp;nbsp; Never heard them with electric rock and roll (which is what I primarily listen to).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have always wanted a huge tangible&amp;nbsp;music collection. I prefer CDs for purposes of ripping and convenience,&amp;nbsp;etc. But with the way my interest in audio has been going in the past&amp;nbsp;few years, I&amp;#39;m pretty sure I will end up collecting vinyl too! There is a music shop right on campus and at least one other on High street that&amp;nbsp;I know of. So vinyl supply is good &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as tables go I have a few picked out. The only B&amp;amp;O table I am really interested in is the 1202. Apart from that, I have discovered the Music Hall company and their MMF series, although I seriously doubt I&amp;#39;d fork out that kind of cash.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding the maggies:&lt;br /&gt;Problem 1) The ones for sale are pretty hard on my eyes. I think that particular pair is a bit too vintage for me. There&amp;#39;s a pair of MG-C1s available for roughly twice the price..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Problem 2) Space - There simply isn&amp;#39;t any! With the location these would be put into, there would be absolutely no room for my BeoVoxen. And&amp;nbsp; even more problematic, they would be operating in a space that is roughly 9&amp;#39; x 18&amp;#39;. I&amp;#39;m sure there would be no lack of bass!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not problem 1) Budget - I am about to toss all of my 5.1 kit (good&amp;nbsp;bye!!!!)&amp;nbsp;onto craigslist so the dollars should even out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beogram 4004 &amp; Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341700.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:41:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341700</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341700.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=341700</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Gene:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Save your turntable money and use your retirement fund or rent money for the Maggies. Make sure you listen to them first, because a trip to Magnepan will cost about a thousand to get them reworked. Even then, it is still a deal. I love mine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good advice:&amp;nbsp; save your turntable money for a turntable and steal money from another part of your budget for the Maggies!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>