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Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Sat, 15 May 2010 12:42:03 GMT

Thanks for the info about the Vu-meters.

You have a PM, Ablaumeise!

Jacques

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

ablaumeise — Sat, 15 May 2010 11:36:44 GMT

Peter :

Did you notice that this is a white 2200 - they never made one!

Really? Then why is there one standing next to my Beocenter 1800? This one had one owner from new, I doubt that this was done afterwards.

chartz:

Also is it normal that the VU needles jump to the end of scale when the unit is powered up? This is frightening!

Mine does that too, so I think that is normal.

chartz:

I still need a power switch. Would anyone here have one please? Thanks in advance!

If you're interested you could have my 2200 for spares. I hardly ever use it and want to get rid of it anyway.

Playback is fine, but some weeks ago recording for the left channel suddenly failed. No idea what's wrong, but as I said I don't care too much anyway. But the switch assembly was completely re-lubricated and works flawlessly.

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Sat, 15 May 2010 06:18:51 GMT

Hello everyone,

I have now almost finished my Beocord 2200. I re-lubricated the motor because I could see it stop immediately when I switched the power off, instead of going on a bit. I just hope it will survive, but I'm confident because the innards were clean (no dust) and the brushes looked new. Anyway it became quieter in the process. The only stupid thing I did was positioning the magnet badly and the motor turned counter-clockwise!

Also is it normal that the VU needles jump to the end of scale when the unit is powered up? This is frightening!

I still need a power switch. Would anyone here have one please? Thanks in advance!

Jacques

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:06:32 GMT

A few pics.

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:18:33 GMT

Hello,

My Beocord 2200 has arrived. Very nice bit of kit indeed.

Everything, as far as I can see, looks new. To have in my hands a new cassette deck from 1974 is very impressive! The head has no sign of wear whatsoever. Amazingly, the belts are like new too, no sign of flutter or wow. Inside, everything is clean and shiny, no oxidization. It plays back very nicely indeed. It doesn't have the Beocord 9000 detail and treble/bass energy (bass is very dry), but I think that if everyone (including myself, but I was 10 in 1974!) had a deck like this back then, cassette would have been taken more seriously.

I can't record properly, because there is some kind of saturation to the sound. I tried the (unmodified) aux input too, and there is no saturation but treble is indeed muffled.

What can I do to record properly with my Beomaster 6000? It's a bit like the Beocord 9000 when one has forgotten to set the plug to "line", if you see what I mean. Edit: Tim Jarman tells me the BM 6000 REC OUT is not adapted to the Beocord AMP IN. I'll therefore make a special cable, because I will NOT modify the deck itself, because I wish to keep everything original. Normally, replace OR1 and OR2 with 470K (at AUX DIN socket, the one we use for recording), and 1C4 and 1C24 with 22p, on PCB.

Very promising indeed, considering the playback quality.

I still have to change that power switch (ref. 7450020) though! (at present, I have bypassed it)

Jacques

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:32:28 GMT

Nice work!

I've got reed relays in stock too... we use them to trigger magnetic alarms!

Nice picture... more please!

Jacques

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

yachadm — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:54:29 GMT

Yes - Roller is a much better word!

Those rubber parts on Idler-wheels....

Here's my completely rebuilt auto-stop PCB - new everything!

Menahem

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:45:23 GMT

Hello,

Thanks for the input and for the great picture!

I don't understand your 2). By washers do you mean rollers?

Jacques

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

yachadm — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:36:18 GMT

A superb deck - I restored mine, you can see the main PCB below.

The faults were as follows, when I decided to operate it in 2003, after having had it in storage for about 15 years:

1. All the rubber belts reeded replacement - from Martin Olsen - Dillen.

2. All the rubber washers had hardened - no replacements available, so I "skinned" the edges during rotation with a Japanese knife, to expose the soft rubber.

3. The blue PSU caps were high ESR - replaced.

4. The Autostop reed switch was faulty - replaced, and I have extra spares if you need.

5. The oxidized trimmer pots were replaced.

Oh yes, and I disassembled the motor completely, replaced the 3 bipolar phase-shift caps on the armature, oiled the shaft with sewing-machine oil, and reassembled the motor.

At this stage it was operating, but pretty poor sound, dark with no definition.

Then I decide to do a full restoration, replacing every electrolytic cap on all PCB's with Pansonic FC and FM. In the signal path, I replaced the ceramic caps with Wima MKS2's, and also resistors with Vishay-Dale metal film CFM-55's.

The sound is superb, and well worth restoring.

Menahem

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

Dillen — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:44:23 GMT

Hi Per,

Exactly what I was referring to.

Martin

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

PDH — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:26:13 GMT

Hello

Just a little picture of a rare recorder - the one with the builtin power amp.

Per H

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

burantek — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:39:26 GMT

Just a quick note... My BC2200 is my most used deck! I love it!

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

chartz — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:52:46 GMT

Hi,

Tim kindly sent me an email, and the answer is here!

Thanks Tim!

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

Dillen — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:40:03 GMT

I am almost sure that I've seen a white one but it may have been a Beocord 1700.
Hmm.. I'm getting old...

But they made one with built-in power amplifier

Martin

Re: Beocord 2200 advice

Peter — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:28:32 GMT

I told him that last night! Did you notice that this is a white 2200 - they never made one!