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Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Jandyt — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:50:23 GMT

Medogsfat:

DrewSavage:

Peter is legendary on Beoworld for his acts of generosity.

Hear! Hear!.
Peter, you are a star!
Drew, if Clitheroe is on your way north, you would be more than welcome to break your jouney here. I have lots of B&O, most of it inexpensive, and some of it given to me by kind Beoworld members, and a few items from Peter.

Andy T.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Cleviebaby — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:38:19 GMT

Hi,

I have been one of many recipients of Peter's generosity - a Beomaster 4400, arguably the best Tuner/Amplifier B&O every produced - and am enjoying it now as I type.

If he is offering you a beomaster and a beogram, I suspect they are in Rosewood - I know he is very fond of the beautifully figured veneer B&O used to use. If they are in Teak, however, I have a fully working pair of Teak S45.2s in very good cosmetic condition - apart from a slight rip in the top corner of the speaker grill cloth - you are more than welcome to, but I live at the other end of the country from Peter -darkest Devon. So, if you fancy a trip down the A303 or M4/M5.....

Cleve

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Peter — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:34:54 GMT

The receiver seems to fully work - all the lights are OK and both channels work. The FM radio is also fine. You will need speaker wires and an aerial though - I am using the ones from my 8000 system!

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Peter — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:32:35 GMT

The record player appears to come with an acceptable MMC20EN

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Peter — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:27:17 GMT

Back home! All works - and I have found a spare pair of S45-2s as well. Actually sounds rather better through them than the M100s which need a bit of a work out I feel! No bass!

I should point out that this system is not perfect. The wood on the front of the Beogram looks a bit wavy - a few splits - and the S45-2s have a few marks and one tweeter looks a bit odd though it sounds fine. The remote for the Beomaster is not working but this is not a surprise as it has no battery! It may or may not work once it has one fitted! (It uses a weird Varta one which I don't have at present!) It also comes with the usual Peter proviso than when no longer wanted, it is given to a deserving soul and not sold, with the same proviso given to the recipient.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Medogsfat — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:18:50 GMT

If you feel you need a pit-stop at Leeds my door is always open & a nice cup of Twinings (in a proper Bone China cup too) awaiting for any Beoworlder

Chris.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

DrewSavage — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:10:55 GMT

wirralsimon:

That is an exceptionally generous offer from Peter, but far from out of character!

If you don't drive it would certainly be worth hiring a car for a day and sweet-talking a friend into driving you up the Motorway and back!

If you decide to do that I have a pair of Beovox S30's (The 1970's resin-backed version) that I replaced with my S45-2's that I would be happy to send you for the cost of postage.

They aren't quite as good as the S45-2's but they have a lovely warm sound and are more compact. My father has had a pair in daily use for the last 32 years and never felt the need to replace them so they would certainly keep you going while you waited for the S45-2's! They were the first B&O item I bought for myself so I would like them to go to a good home!

Simon

Another amazingly kind offer - what a great group of people you are!

I will wait for Peter to give me the nod, of course, but after that I will be motoring up the M1 at the earliest opportunity.

So - thank you and yes please.

Drew

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

wirralsimon — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:04:37 GMT

That is an exceptionally generous offer from Peter, but far from out of character!

If you don't drive it would certainly be worth hiring a car for a day and sweet-talking a friend into driving you up the Motorway and back!

If you decide to do that I have a pair of Beovox S30's (The 1970's resin-backed version) that I replaced with my S45-2's that I would be happy to send you for the cost of postage.

They aren't quite as good as the S45-2's but they have a lovely warm sound and are more compact. My father has had a pair in daily use for the last 32 years and never felt the need to replace them so they would certainly keep you going while you waited for the S45-2's! They were the first B&O item I bought for myself so I would like them to go to a good home!

Simon

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

yachadm — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:41:49 GMT

Hey Chris,

I like your recommendation

"Find yourself a decent pair of S45-2 speakers on ebay (not the S45's as these will have foam rot)"

YES. YES. YES !!! Convince everyone to leave all the S45's alone, so the prices come down ;->

The S45's were available in 2 versions - the early S45's are fantastic (have 4, and always looking for more), as they have the rubber surrounds and a fantastic woofer.

The later S45's had the foam rot, and a lousy woofer.

But if you don't like all S45's in general, that's fine by us early model S45 fans!!!!

Menahem

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Medogsfat — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:39:05 GMT

DrewSavage:

It does strike me as an extremely kind offer. Forgive my ignorance, but what's foam rot? I've read the term but not found out what it is yet.

There's a pair of S35s on eBay at the moment - would those be any good? Or would I be better off sticking with my X25s until the right thing comes along?

Peter is legendary on Beoworld for his acts of generosity.

S30's are OK and decent enough small speakers but not in the same league as S45-2's (I have to agree with Lee re:- X25's and they have appeared in a Beoworld poll as the worst B&O product of all time).

Foam rot is the deterioration of the circular membranes which connect the speaker cones to the speaker frames. They simply allow the speaker cones to move in a central position and stop vibration & the drive coils wearing away. On some B&O speakers (and other makes) these are made from foam which basically rots due to age - it is explained in further detail HERE. The S45-2's have rubber surrounds so don't suffer from this.

Chris.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

9 LEE — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:45:02 GMT

Please don't take this the wrong way, but i think possibly anything is better than X25's.

I think value for money wise, the S45-2's are fabulous and a great introduction to classic B&O. With those and the system Peter has kindy offered you, you'd have a lovely set-up!!

Lee

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

DrewSavage — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:42:02 GMT

Medogsfat:

Classic B&O which you won't regret owning. Find yourself a decent pair of S45-2 speakers on ebay (not the S45's as these will have foam rot) and you'll be as happy as Larry.

Chris.

It does strike me as an extremely kind offer. Forgive my ignorance, but what's foam rot? I've read the term but not found out what it is yet.

There's a pair of S35s on eBay at the moment - would those be any good? Or would I be better off sticking with my X25s until the right thing comes along?

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

DrewSavage — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:34:07 GMT

Excellent - thank you very much. Even with the price of petrol it'll be worth driving up for it.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Medogsfat — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:43:53 GMT

j0hnbarker:

My advice would be to skip the Beocenter and fill your tank up with enough fuel for the return trip to Newcastle! That's a very generous offer for a nice system indeed :)

Definately your best bet by far

Classic B&O which you won't regret owning. Find yourself a decent pair of S45-2 speakers on ebay (not the S45's as these will have foam rot) and you'll be as happy as Larry.

Chris.

Re: A Beocenter 2200 world of pain

Peter — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:18:24 GMT

Probably too big! - give me a couple of days and I will do some photos - I am flying to London tomorrow but no room for these I am afraid. I'll check they are fully working too!