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Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Søren Hammer — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:07:03 GMT

I have a Beolit 707 with anodized black control panel, which has been a possession of my grandparents. It was always placed in a window where the sun always shines. After 25+ years, the anodized black almost disappeared and the letters became quite faint. Exposure to sunlight can simply ruin the anodized panel and lettering...

-Søren

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

burantek — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:00:26 GMT

Dillen:
In severe cases of sun bleaching, the black anodizing can lose some of it's color and the
lettering will become very faint.
Maybe that could also explain the fainted tinting of the dustcover.

After looking at this... I think this is the answer. A very severe case.

If you look at the text in the first pic -you will notice remnants of the original black under the screened white especially in the letters A and M.

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Steffen — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:59:38 GMT

Okay -I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Peter — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:22:30 GMT

You can - one member was removing the colours from speakers just a year or so ago. You need chemicals!

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Steffen — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:43:27 GMT

Peter :

I imagine the black anodised finish was scratched and the owner then removed the rest of the black.

Hm - I don't think you can just remove the anodised finish. It's not like paint you can remove. As far as I know when they anodise aluminum the color gets into the aluminum.

I think that the most B&O dustcovers are "smoked amber" -some has a more blueish tone -some older (Beogram 1203) had a brownish tone. But I have never seen the greenish tone like the one you have. A rarity

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Peter — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:31:45 GMT

I imagine the black anodised finish was scratched and the owner then removed the rest of the black.

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Phil Hunt — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:47:33 GMT

No-the tonearm cover has the normal scheme, however the black part has a much smoother/polished-looking finish to it, although the normal B&O grained aluminum below it is discernable. The juxtaposition of the 2 bright aluminum parts-one long/skinny (left/rear) and the normal one over the tonearms (right/frt)-works well to my eyes.

I'm just wondering what it's about. I can see no way that it wasn't manufactured that way, but when and why?

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Peter — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:35:43 GMT

Interesting - was the back of the arm cover aluminium as well? I imagine an 8000 system with all aluminium finish instead of black - would be something to see!

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Phil Hunt — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:20:53 GMT

And #2:

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Phil Hunt — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:07:25 GMT

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Here are 2 images that clearly show the green tint and the bright aluminum trim.

The adjacent tonearm cover is black margin as always (not "faded"), while the platter cover is aluminum margin/green plexi

(vs black margin/smoked amber plexi, normal):

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Dillen — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:58:01 GMT

Now you point my attention to it, I can see that one of the Beograms have a lighter color to the
rear alu strip.
In severe cases of sun bleaching, the black anodizing can lose some of it's color and the
lettering will become very faint.
Maybe that could also explain the fainted tinting of the dustcover.
A couple more good photos would be interesting to see.

Yes, the last few Beogram 8000's had the metal tachodisc factory mounted.

Martin

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Phil Hunt — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:20:39 GMT

Yes and you too-the greenish one has brushed aluminum. The other one in the picture has the normal black finish althoufh the lighting smears the difference. I'll try to post a better picture with both 8000 covers together. Seeing with ones eyes, the difference is pretty startling.

Regards, Phil

PS: this table has the metal tacho disc. Did some 8000s come originally that way?

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Dillen — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:34:01 GMT

No.
Have you ?

Martin

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Phil Hunt — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:58:23 GMT

Have you seen ones that had brushed aluminum instead of black where the the 8000 appears?

Re: 8000 dust-cover green

Dillen — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:19:00 GMT

I've noticed that the lids can differ quite a bit and I can see what you mean but I never really considered it green.
I agree, in the above photo, it does look a bit green'ish.

Martin