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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>eBay - the right way!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/26.aspx</link><description>Spotted a suspicious listing, a real bargain or need good advice about buying on eBay? Ask here - (non-libellous comments only!)&lt;p&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359759.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:11:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359759</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359759.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359759</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Rich:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Jeff:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this case the &amp;quot;little hifi shop&amp;quot; was Tweeter/Sound Advice. Sound Advice was a Florida company, tons of stores, that was bought out by Tweeter, which was more of a nationwide US company.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My buddy worked there starting with Sound Advice. One day visiting him he was in the back eating lunch, and I stopped and stared at the large &amp;quot;Drug Free Workplace&amp;quot; sign, which gave us both a laugh, as the company was originally started out of Ft. Lauderdale FL to launder drug money. Oh the irony...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So THAT&amp;#39;S why the backs of M70s come off - to get the 10 kilos of cocaine in and out!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah the &amp;#39;1 year lab analysis&amp;#39; mentioned in the above flyer is starting to make sense now &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359757.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:42:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359757</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359757.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359757</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Jeff:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this case the &amp;quot;little hifi shop&amp;quot; was Tweeter/Sound Advice. Sound Advice was a Florida company, tons of stores, that was bought out by Tweeter, which was more of a nationwide US company.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My buddy worked there starting with Sound Advice. One day visiting him he was in the back eating lunch, and I stopped and stared at the large &amp;quot;Drug Free Workplace&amp;quot; sign, which gave us both a laugh, as the company was originally started out of Ft. Lauderdale FL to launder drug money. Oh the irony...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So THAT&amp;#39;S why the backs of M70s come off - to get the 10 kilos of cocaine in and out!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359756.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:31:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359756</guid><dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359756.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359756</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;In this case the &amp;quot;little hifi shop&amp;quot; was Tweeter/Sound Advice. Sound Advice was a Florida company, tons of stores, that was bought out by Tweeter, which was more of a nationwide US company.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My buddy worked there starting with Sound Advice. One day visiting him he was in the back eating lunch, and I stopped and stared at the large &amp;quot;Drug Free Workplace&amp;quot; sign, which gave us both a laugh, as the company was originally started out of Ft. Lauderdale FL to launder drug money. Oh the irony...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359545.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:59:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359545</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359545.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359545</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Step1:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So all those little hifi shops that lost their franchise&amp;#39;s around the workd basically boils down to you complaining!!! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of those &amp;quot;little hifi shops&amp;quot; was HiFi Buys of Ann Arbor, Michigan, where my first wife bought my first Beogram, an RX 2 I still own and use.&amp;nbsp; Here is HiFi Buys&amp;#39; advertisement from&amp;nbsp; the January 6, 1975 issue of the &lt;i&gt;Ann Arbor Sun&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Their top of the line system at the time:&amp;nbsp; Beosystem 3000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359544.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:41:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359544</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359544.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359544</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;So all those little hifi shops that lost their franchise&amp;#39;s around the workd basically boils down to you complaining!!! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Jeff:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the kind of thing that really hacks me off, particularly with products that are as much a work of art as an audio component like B&amp;amp;O. Sloppy and careless, and shows no respect either for the product or the person you&amp;#39;re shipping it to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see a lot of very badly cared for and damaged B&amp;amp;O for sale, which I have to pass on even though I might want that particular piece. I mean, for B&amp;amp;O the beautiful design and construction is a large part of the pride of ownership, I don&amp;#39;t see how some of this gear can get so ill treated. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before B&amp;amp;O went to branded stores here in the US, the local mega store that sold them did a very poor job of both presenting them and caring for them, having the B&amp;amp;O display out on the floor with the boom boxes, and all of the stuff was pawed over and broken most of the time. I remember I actually wrote and complained about this to B&amp;amp;O, and apparently they really came down on the dealer. My friend worked there as a sales droid and he said all manner of it hit the fan with B&amp;amp;O coming in and looking at the display, and not long after that B&amp;amp;O pulled the license from this place, and then went to branded stores. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing I commented on was how could you tell what they sounded like in the middle of a huge, loud room? Suddenly a week or two later the dealer was offering to let me take a pair of 8000&amp;#39;s home for an extended audition. Worked, I would up buying them. They sounded thin and poor in the store, at home they were magnificent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So yeah, I feel your pain as an ex president said. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359502.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:05:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359502</guid><dc:creator>chartz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359502.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359502</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;chartz:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I also give them instructions but they will invariably NOT listen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#39;m currently waiting for some damage compensation, but I guess I will never see the colour of their money now they got mine...&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Got my money back, eventually! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-46.gif" alt="Drinks" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359061.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:07:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:359061</guid><dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/359061.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=359061</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This is the kind of thing that really hacks me off, particularly with products that are as much a work of art as an audio component like B&amp;amp;O. Sloppy and careless, and shows no respect either for the product or the person you&amp;#39;re shipping it to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see a lot of very badly cared for and damaged B&amp;amp;O for sale, which I have to pass on even though I might want that particular piece. I mean, for B&amp;amp;O the beautiful design and construction is a large part of the pride of ownership, I don&amp;#39;t see how some of this gear can get so ill treated. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before B&amp;amp;O went to branded stores here in the US, the local mega store that sold them did a very poor job of both presenting them and caring for them, having the B&amp;amp;O display out on the floor with the boom boxes, and all of the stuff was pawed over and broken most of the time. I remember I actually wrote and complained about this to B&amp;amp;O, and apparently they really came down on the dealer. My friend worked there as a sales droid and he said all manner of it hit the fan with B&amp;amp;O coming in and looking at the display, and not long after that B&amp;amp;O pulled the license from this place, and then went to branded stores. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing I commented on was how could you tell what they sounded like in the middle of a huge, loud room? Suddenly a week or two later the dealer was offering to let me take a pair of 8000&amp;#39;s home for an extended audition. Worked, I would up buying them. They sounded thin and poor in the store, at home they were magnificent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So yeah, I feel your pain as an ex president said. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358975.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:50:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358975</guid><dc:creator>chartz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358975.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358975</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I also give them instructions but they will invariably NOT listen.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#39;m currently waiting for some damage compensation, but I guess I will never see the colour of their money now they got mine...&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358829.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:48:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358829</guid><dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358829.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358829</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;What a service! the box is already open! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope your item is undamged. Some people have no experience in packing/wrapping for transport unfortunately... &amp;nbsp; I always give the seller some intructions before i get &amp;nbsp;by example a beogram arriving in pieces in the box. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358812.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:27:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358812</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358812.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358812</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Stonk:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some people need to be shot.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;+1&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358789.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:18:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358789</guid><dc:creator>Stonk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358789.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358789</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Some people need to be shot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if it&amp;#39;s ebay you&amp;#39;re going to get stuffed with the return courier costs plus the hassle of it all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358788.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:12:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358788</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358788.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358788</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;what do people think when they pack heavy items like this! Unbelievable!!! TBH whenever I see such examples I always think the item was damaged to start with and they purposly pack like this to try to turn things into a courier claim or even try to lay the blame with the recipient!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hope things get sorted without trouble!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Packaging to die for!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358785.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:45:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:358785</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/358785.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=358785</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This arrived with me yesterday from a seller who took 10 days to pack it and will&amp;nbsp; no doubt blame the courier!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>