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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>eBay - the right way!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/26.aspx</link><description>Spotted a suspicious listing, a real bargain or need good advice about buying on eBay? Ask here - (non-libellous comments only!)&lt;p&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325573.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 03:09:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325573</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325573.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325573</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Well Lee I would put the stickers on anyway as it must at least put one or two off. If it was a second time I would then insist they demonstrate the fault via webcam (send &amp;#39;em one if they claim not to have one!) and show the intact seal too!&amp;nbsp; I am sure they will still come up with some excuse though...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325564.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 19:27:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325564</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325564.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325564</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The last time I cleaned out my electronics closet, I had two poor experiences with buyers that completely soured me on the Ebay selling experience.&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t think I will ever sell again because of two guys buying second hand electronics from me for $25.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;$25 x 2.&amp;nbsp; Very sad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I still buy, though.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ve actually never had a poor buying experience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sad for Lee, though, that the one bad apple has to spoil the whole bunch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This reminds me of a thread I think Martin started last year.&amp;nbsp; In that thread I noted that Ebay seems to have forgotten their customers are the sellers, not the buyers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325563.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 19:20:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325563</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325563.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325563</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;When they&amp;#39;re in a foreign country it&amp;#39;s often not worth shipping it back to inspect. &amp;nbsp;They could take a picture of the unbroken seal, email it to you, then get to work changing the parts..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It happens once, you grin and bear it. &amp;nbsp;It happens twice, you get suspicious. &amp;nbsp;It happens a third time, you know you&amp;#39;re being ripped off - especially as all the products were fully tested before shipping.. and none of the issues could be attributed to transportation damage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325560.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 18:34:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325560</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325560.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325560</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve had people from my own website buy things, then say they are faulty at the other end. &amp;nbsp;They swap out the good part from your product to repair their own, then get you to pay for a bogus repair to what you have sold them. &amp;nbsp;They know who they are - and i now refuse to deal with them, but these are the kind of people who are out there. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s sad, really. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Wow, how sad! Can you not put some discrete serialised or customised anti-tamper stickers on some of the products Lee? That would at least reduce the incidences I would think...?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325558.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 18:18:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325558</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325558.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325558</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;eBay is a minefield. &amp;nbsp;All you can do is cover yourself by describing everything as well as possible and hoping the buyer isn&amp;#39;t a scam artist or a complete idiot. &amp;nbsp;However, eBay seems to attract both.. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are a lot of decent, honest people out there though which have made eBay successful - but if you&amp;#39;re buying, study feedback carefully. &amp;nbsp;If you&amp;#39;re selling - cross your fingers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve had people from my own website buy things, then say they are faulty at the other end. &amp;nbsp;They swap out the good part from your product to repair their own, then get you to pay for a bogus repair to what you have sold them. &amp;nbsp;They know who they are - and i now refuse to deal with them, but these are the kind of people who are out there. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s sad, really. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When selling, you could say &amp;#39;buyer collects&amp;#39; and demo it on the spot - but that will severely decrease the amount you get for something as not everyone wants to travel, especially for a cartridge..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Fraud:</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325556.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 17:26:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:325556</guid><dc:creator>Steven Simcox</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/325556.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=325556</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Georgia&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;serif&amp;#39;;color:black;"&gt;All kinds of people use eBay so how do you protect yourself against fraud? I saw a listing where the seller said he records all serial numbers; apparently he was ripped off once.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Verdana&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;color:black;font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Georgia&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;serif&amp;#39;;color:black;"&gt;For example, suppose you list a phono cartridge like a perfect MMC-1. The buyer might have a defective cartridge on hand and once he receives the good one, ask for a refund substituting his junk, in which case you might be S.O.L. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Verdana&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;color:black;font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Georgia&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;serif&amp;#39;;color:black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Would you send it through a 3rd party such as Sound-Smith, assuming they would even do such a thing, or what?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Verdana&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;color:black;font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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