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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>eBay - the right way!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/26.aspx</link><description>Spotted a suspicious listing, a real bargain or need good advice about buying on eBay? Ask here - (non-libellous comments only!)&lt;p&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: New Ebay user agreement</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294308.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:20:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:294308</guid><dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294308.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=294308</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;There really needs to be an alternative to Ebay. Their rules are just getting worse all the time.&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/34.gif" alt="Super Angry" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Craig&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New Ebay user agreement</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294287.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:21:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:294287</guid><dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294287.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=294287</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think Ebay realizes its customers are the sellers, not the buyers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New Ebay user agreement</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294216.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:03:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:294216</guid><dc:creator>Dillen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294216.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=294216</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, plus a lot of buyers that will simply buy something from a random seller and then &amp;quot;arrange&amp;quot; a damaged&amp;nbsp;item to get a refund.&lt;br /&gt;- Or actually two refunds&lt;br /&gt;- Plus the item (unless Ebay tells the buyer to return it)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buyer-protection-faq.html"&gt;http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buyer-protection-faq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I understand that buyers need some protection from sellers decribing their items poorly or shipping something completely&lt;br /&gt;different but making sellers responsible for transport damages&amp;nbsp;will not work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, they even encourage buyers to accept&amp;nbsp;a shipment&amp;nbsp;that is obviously damaged in transport and&amp;nbsp;then contact the seller&lt;br /&gt;and then Ebay.&lt;br /&gt;Quote:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span class="faqindent"&gt;If you notice that the item is not as it was described in the listing, for example, it looks damaged, accept the item and then contact the seller and allow 3 business days for a reply. The seller may be willing to offer a refund or exchange within 45 days of payment.&amp;nbsp; If you&amp;#39;re not able to work things out with the seller, you can reach eBay for support by opening a SNAD case...&amp;quot;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Martin&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New Ebay user agreement</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294213.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:40:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:294213</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294213.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=294213</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This simply cannot work. Now a buyer &amp;amp; a seller team up, have something &amp;quot;of value&amp;quot; shipped, get it damaged in shipping (the easy part) and split the refund they get from the shipping company.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>New Ebay user agreement</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294208.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:55:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:294208</guid><dc:creator>Dillen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/294208.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=26&amp;PostID=294208</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;So now Ebay has copied Paypals user agreement with regards to buyer protection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If an item gets damaged in shipping, the buyer can report to Ebay and get his money back&lt;br /&gt;from the seller (who is forced to pay through his Paypal/Creditcard/Ebay seller account).&lt;br /&gt;That is regardless of the payment method chosen and who&amp;#39;s fault the damage was.&lt;br /&gt;The seller must even refund the postage cost.&lt;br /&gt;Then the buyer can contact his local package distributor and claim a refund from the shipping&lt;br /&gt;company from them as well, according to international postal regulations.&lt;br /&gt;In other words, the seller will lose everything and the buyer gets a double refund (plus the damaged item).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wrote to Ebay, telling them that this is a huge mistake but they just replied that they did this&lt;br /&gt;to make it safer for buyers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh yes, indeed it does...&lt;br /&gt;And bloody dangerous for sellers !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Martin&lt;/p&gt;
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