eBay - the right way!

Re: Entry level vintage

rgs218 — Tue, 18 May 2010 19:17:16 GMT

Personally I wouldn't say the lack of Powerlink is a big problem. As I said before you can still attach some active Beolab speakers like Pentas and the 3000/5000 range using the Speakerlink system, and although the 6500 is more versatile there is a significant price increase over the 5500 which IMO probably isn't worth it for what the OP is looking for from a system at the moment. With the 5500 he'll be able to afford all the components he wants (turntable, cd, speakers) whilst saving towards a better system if he thinks he needs it.

You'll obviously get a warranty with that one from MorethanAV and it should be good quality, but bear in mind you'll be paying a premium for it and you wouldn't get that amount back if you ever wanted to re-sell it. You should get a fully working one on Ebay for £350-400 that you won't loose money on, and that'll levae you plenty of cash left over for a decent set of speakers.

Re: Entry level vintage

Peter — Tue, 18 May 2010 16:14:30 GMT

They allow you to attach Beolab speakers. The 5500 only has passive speaker outputs and the software is not always going to work with some systems. I like 5500 systems because they have both DIN and RCA connections - great for attaching computers. However the lack of Powerlink is a big problem.

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 15:57:30 GMT

Hi Peter,

I have no idea what Powerlink sockets are and why they might be a plus. Can you advise?

Re: Entry level vintage

Peter — Tue, 18 May 2010 15:44:11 GMT

I am sure that would be fine - I would consider the 6500 instead though - Powerlink sockets are big plus. Ian is a reputable dealer so you won't have a problem.

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 15:28:22 GMT

Has anyone had any experience buying from these guys?

http://www.morethanav.co.uk/product/12330/Beosystem/

I'm pretty much sold on getting a 5000 or 5500 now with a view to enjoying it while putting together another system when the bug bites.

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 14:16:56 GMT

oh, and as for Ipod leads - mentioned in the topics of conversation. Not for me. I have only bought one mp3. It holds no attraction for me. I don't own an ipod.

I can't imagine buying an album and not being able to read the liner notes and see which artists have contributed. This and the artwork and simple fact that I have something tangible (and which requires something more mechanical than a hard drive) adds to my appreciation of music.

As for your last post. The excitiment is always in the anticipation!

Re: Entry level vintage

burantek — Tue, 18 May 2010 14:06:00 GMT

kb1981:
Burantek - the meandering nature of the thread is a joy to behold.

That it is!

And the way B&o will get to you... I hope you enjoy deciding what you want to do -it has always been half the fun for me!

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 14:02:54 GMT

John, You're in the enviable position of having a collection. I can assure you that whatever I get it will be very special for me for quite some time.

j0hnbarker:

One point I would make is that my first 'modern' piece of B&O was a 5000 stacking system - which is the only system I have let go from my collection. Much as I liked it and the way it looked and sounded, it was probably the least 'special' system that I had and when we moved house I didn't have the space for it any more...

For what it's worth, there's no way would my Beomaster 8000, 6000 Quad, 2000 or Beolab 5000 have been let go. I get more satisfaction from using these items than I did from the 5000 stacking system.

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 14:00:53 GMT

Burantek - the meandering nature of the thread is a joy to behold. I publish a range of soccer coaching books and newsletters and I'm constantly trying to get people to visit our forums to post and to do so regularly. They never do. Why? Well the threads never develop into conversations. What we have here is a written conversation and that's why this forum works and you all keep coming back (and why I've signed up).

This thread is turning into the adventures of a B&O virgin with some knowledgeable contributions from all of you. And, as such, I think will come in very useful for others like me that stumble across this forum.

Indeed, one of my friends has been caught by my enthusiasm on this little adventure and my reports on this forum that he has started to investigate B&O equipment.

Re: Entry level vintage

j0hnbarker — Tue, 18 May 2010 12:14:27 GMT

One point I would make is that my first 'modern' piece of B&O was a 5000 stacking system - which is the only system I have let go from my collection. Much as I liked it and the way it looked and sounded, it was probably the least 'special' system that I had and when we moved house I didn't have the space for it any more...

For what it's worth, there's no way would my Beomaster 8000, 6000 Quad, 2000 or Beolab 5000 have been let go. I get more satisfaction from using these items than I did from the 5000 stacking system.

Re: Entry level vintage

Peter — Tue, 18 May 2010 11:38:55 GMT

Agree! Bought one of these new when it came out! (the 2400-2) Just gave a 2400 system away a few months ago - sorry to see it go but it did take up quite some space!

Re: Entry level vintage

burantek — Tue, 18 May 2010 11:27:58 GMT

tournedos:
However, I have a mental block talking about the stack systems as vintage - but it's true that most of them are 20+ years old now.

You too, huh?

IMHO, if B&o released the BM1900 (or moreso the 2400) tomorrow (not ~35 years ago!!!)... it would still drop my jaw!

Re: Entry level vintage

kb1981 — Tue, 18 May 2010 11:08:28 GMT

rgs218:

Regarding the remote, please note you will definitely need one, as apart from the Beomaster 5000, none of the stacking systems actually have any controls on the units themselves!

Good point, well made!

Thanks for everyone's input on the incompatibility, too.

Re: Entry level vintage

burantek — Tue, 18 May 2010 11:05:43 GMT

Wow... this thread has been everywhere!

Today...

1.) BM6500

2.) MCP6500

3.) iPod lead

4.) Passive speakers -don't have to be B&o... but buy some RL60.2

That will get you started!

Later...

5.) BG6500 + allocate for cartridge

Later...

6.) CD6500

Later...

7.) Beo4

Much later...

8.) Upgrade to some active speakers

During the entire time...

9.) ENJOY!

Re: Entry level vintage

rgs218 — Tue, 18 May 2010 10:52:18 GMT

kb1981:

Is there a compatibility issue if I get a 6500/7000 master, cord and cd, with the more affordable beogram 5000 to start, with a view to upgrading to the 6500/7000 beogram when I have the money to do so and using the sale of the 5000 beogram to part finance it?

Sorry, started typing my reply bnefore the OP's latest post. To answer your question, I'm afraid there would be an issue as the Beogram 5000 hasn't got an in-built RIAA which it would need to function with the later 6500/7000 amps. It would however work with the Beomaster 5500, which is what I have in my system. Also there would be an aesthetic difference which you might not have realised, as the 5000 & 5500 systems were a matt aluminium finish, whereas the 6500 & 7000 were a mirror effect polished aluminium.

I would recommend buying a full matching 5500, and then if you still wanted you could save up towards a full 6500 or 7000 using the full re-sale value of the 5500 system to contribute to the cost.

Regarding the remote, please note you will definitely need one, as apart from the Beomaster 5000, none of the stacking systems actually have any controls on the units themselves!

ETA: Must type faster!