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Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

mr_anders_son — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:09:42 GMT

9 LEE:
I'd definitely get in touch with B&O and offer your services Anders. You're a world class photographer, and a very nice guy - so how could they not be interested in working with you?!!
I have met the chap in charge of the B&O website, and he's also a really nice guy - very approachable and pleasant, so who knows.. maybe an excellent relationship can follow!
Lee

Thanx Lee for very kind words. As many company the hire a advertising agency and they pick there own photohgrapher etc

Same way I get my job

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

9 LEE — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:58:26 GMT

I'd definitely get in touch with B&O and offer your services Anders. You're a world class photographer, and a very nice guy - so how could they not be interested in working with you?!!

I have met the chap in charge of the B&O website, and he's also a really nice guy - very approachable and pleasant, so who knows.. maybe an excellent relationship can follow!

Lee

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

Ericvr6 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:44:02 GMT

Jandyt:

I bet you sat up in your chair when you saw that one, Anders!!
Go the whole hog mate.
Tell them you will happily photograph the new BeoSound/System/Center5 when it comes out as long as you can keep it.
Andy T.

B&O new housephotographicer ???

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

mr_anders_son — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:05:55 GMT

This is not a problem for me. They can use my images if they want

As Soundproof says it´s good promotion for me ;-)

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

soundproof — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:23:00 GMT

I've spent quite a bit of time buying artwork for commercial use during the years, and even creating some.

Rule number 1 - don't disseminate materials you wish to have copyright protected without properly labeling them as such.

In this particular instance, it's not a matter of made up law, but of an entity protecting itself using extant laws. I personally feel that B&O should have gotten in touch with Mr. Anderson nonetheless, if only to inform him that the image would be used. But they have protected themselves quite solidly with that statement - succinctly put: post it, we can do what we want with it.

I'm certain that if he gets in touch with B&O they'll remove the image, but then I'd also recommend that he remove all his uploaded images if their use gets him in a tiff. Though rather than taking the attitude that B&O have stolen his image, he might want to offer his services as a photographer of B&O, based upon the self-promotion that his uploaded images constitutes. (I think he has the most uploads on the official site of any contributor.)

The internet is not the best container for content you wish to protect. If they had taken the image from his personal or other promotional website, where it was clearly stated that the content was protected, then he'd have a case. But by posting it at their official site, on BeoWorld, (elsewhere?) he has released the image to the public.

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

simon8201 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:07:19 GMT

well I don't know. There are numerous examples of made up law not being watertight. Just because they've typed it on their website doesn't make it law - depends on the amount of trouble you want to go to.

As a pro though you'd expect at least a proper credit and as a pro who's a B&O enthusiast I think you deserve better. Are there any legal experts about?!

Simon

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

koning — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:15:57 GMT

In that case....

Use my picture too!

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

mr_anders_son — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:48:49 GMT

soundproof:
Tricky. I happen to know they are very careful about not using materials they don't have the right to.
Did you post the image on their web-site?
If so, did you read the statement concerning content there? http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=63
Bang & Olufsen does not want to receive confidential or proprietary information from you through our web site. Please note that any information, unsolicited suggestions, ideas or other submissions will be deemed to be non-confidential and non-proprietary. By sending Bang & Olufsen any information or material, you grant Bang & Olufsen a royalty free, unrestricted, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, modify, transmit and distribute those materials or information, and to sublicense such rights, and you also agree to that Bang & Olufsen is free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques that you send us for any purpose.

Yeah I saw this so nothing to do....many other companys had policies that they can use the picture wihtout permission BUT they pay for that using it.......

So this is only a great thing that they use my picture. But..hey...send me a pair of BL5 please

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

jk1002 — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:16:05 GMT

So the anwser is, you should be flattered. That is an amazing picture by the way. Maybe you qualify for a page in the next magazine.

And they should pay you a commission to be fair. When I saw your picture of the BV8 I became more interested, took delivery last weekend.

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

Puncher — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:20:23 GMT

Nevermind - why not hang full-size photo's of Lab 9's where you would have stood them if B&O had used a picture of yours that you hadn't already posted on their site

Sorry

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

camshaft — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:14:06 GMT

Ah, yep. That's it then as soundproof said.

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

soundproof — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:13:15 GMT

Had a look at your Photo Album page at the B&O site, Mr. Anderson. Your photo is there, and they can use it as they wish ...

http://www.bang-olufsen.com/Community/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=102

All corporations that allow uploads of content from community members have pretty waterproof wording as to the display and use of such content, and I don't think you'll get far. As my father likes to say: Always read the fine print.

I think your thread title should be: B&O really liked my picture.

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

camshaft — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:04:13 GMT

Wow, did they really use it completely without your permission? I mean had you not posted it on their site as soundproof said? If this is really so then as the others said I'd definitely contact them and ask for some compensation or at least some kind of credit/acknowledgement. If they just say they'll take down the picture then point out that they've already benefited from the advertising and that can't be undone.

soundproof:
Tricky. I happen to know they are very careful about not using materials they don't have the right to.

Yes, I imagine B&O as a company wouldn't do this, but I wouldn't be surprised if their web designer did this without the company knowing.

Austin

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

soundproof — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:51:13 GMT

Tricky. I happen to know they are very careful about not using materials they don't have the right to.

Did you post the image on their web-site?

If so, did you read the statement concerning content there? http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=63

Bang & Olufsen does not want to receive confidential or proprietary information from you through our web site. Please note that any information, unsolicited suggestions, ideas or other submissions will be deemed to be non-confidential and non-proprietary. By sending Bang & Olufsen any information or material, you grant Bang & Olufsen a royalty free, unrestricted, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, modify, transmit and distribute those materials or information, and to sublicense such rights, and you also agree to that Bang & Olufsen is free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques that you send us for any purpose.

Re: Bang Olufsen official site has stolen my picture

JC — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:58:45 GMT

I am astounded they would not look into the owners identity before publishing the photos. The backlash could be a great embarassment both legally and financially. I'd go full pelt at them if they they mine.

Jonnie