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Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:12:03 GMT

I have posted a letter to B&O and asked them if the new sw 4.12 will support 24 fprs. I havent got any answer yet. But YES, if you look at some bluray movies (except from oceans 13), you can see small jerking movements in the picture when you look at slow panorama movements. This has got to do with that the BV7 has to make a 3:2 pulldown, which means that the TV has to put one extra frame every second time it updates the picture. When a bluraymovie is recorded in 24 fprs you need a tv that support 24/48 or 96 fprs to get a smooth picture. BV7-40 mark III just supports 50 and 60 fprs. I have asked B&O about this but they just say that the tv supports 25 fprs which is right (half of 50 fprs). They recommended me to get a bluray player that supports 25 fprs. They dont know that all bluraymovies are recorded in 24 fprs. That is really bad that a premium brand dont know about this, or maybe it is just the people at custumerservice that dont know this technical stuff.

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

moxxey — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:18:37 GMT

Martin, are you absolutely sure? I don't see jerking on most movies apart from Ocean's 13 and that's also present on the SD DVD.

I don't think we can deduce whether we have 24fps support just from watching a Blu-ray (I wouldn't be able to come back to you and say yes/no, either way). We need a bug update list. Beolab or Coolskin usually have this info..

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:53:42 GMT

You can see it when you are looking at bluray-movies when you look at moving objects at the screen. If you se some "jerking" movements in the picture you DON´T have 24 fprs support. But if all movements in the picture (large movements, typ panorama movements) is smooth, then you should have 24 fprs-support. Check it and let me know.

Regards

Martin

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

mr_anders_son — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:45:49 GMT

Hmm I dont know. How can I see that? I have PS3 as Blueray

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:58:18 GMT

Does your Bv9 support 24 fprs, meaning does it fully support bluray-movies with 1080p/24fprs with software 4.12?

/Martin

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

mr_anders_son — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:12:45 GMT

martin01:
To Mr Andersson: If you have sw 4.12, do you know if your BV7 does support 24 fprs?
I have heard that there are a lot of "bugs" in this sw. Have you experienced this?
/Martin

I have BV9, but has not "seen" any bugs

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:03:12 GMT

To Mr Andersson: If you have sw 4.12, do you know if your BV7 does support 24 fprs?

I have heard that there are a lot of "bugs" in this sw. Have you experienced this?

/Martin

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

moxxey — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:28 GMT

martin01:
so, the BV9 has the same "flash"-problem? Why haven´t we heard about this before? Is it so few Bluray-users out there?

As I've mentioned before, the 4.03 sw upgrade fixed the white flash problem on Blu-rays for me, but I still see the flash on the PS3 controller screen and PS3 1080p games. It seems it's a 1080p problem.

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

mr_anders_son — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:17:54 GMT

martin01:
so, the BV9 has the same "flash"-problem? Why haven´t we heard about this before? Is it so few Bluray-users out there?
It would be interesting to know if the latest sw 4.12 will fix the flash-problem AND 24fprs-"problem".
/Martin

I have 4.12 and still the same :-(

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:40:01 GMT

so, the BV9 has the same "flash"-problem? Why haven´t we heard about this before? Is it so few Bluray-users out there?

It would be interesting to know if the latest sw 4.12 will fix the flash-problem AND 24fprs-"problem".

/Martin

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

moxxey — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:42:07 GMT

JoC:
Has the latest software definitely fixed the white flashing issue with 1080p content.

I just bought a PS3 at the weekend and have indeed spotted this problem with Blu-Rays, 1080p based games and up-scaled media from the NAS. It is a tad annoying, but sometimes I forget about it after a while (maybe I just tune it out). I only ask this because the dealer wants to charge me for upgrading the software. So if it fixes the issue (and adds other features), I may have to pay the money.

JoC

You shouldn't have to pay anything for a 'faulty' TV. These white flash issues do not happen across other brands (I've tried the PS3 on a Sony and Samsung, without issues), so it's a B&O issue with their 1080p screens. I'd tell your dealer he can have the TV back if he can't fix this issue and threatens to charge for attempting to fix it.

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

mr_anders_son — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:06:07 GMT

JoC:
Has the latest software definitely fixed the white flashing issue with 1080p content.

I just bought a PS3 at the weekend and have indeed spotted this problem with Blu-Rays, 1080p based games and up-scaled media from the NAS. It is a tad annoying, but sometimes I forget about it after a while (maybe I just tune it out). I only ask this because the dealer wants to charge me for upgrading the software. So if it fixes the issue (and adds other features), I may have to pay the money.

JoC

No still the same on my BV9

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

JoC — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:46:20 GMT

Has the latest software definitely fixed the white flashing issue with 1080p content.

I just bought a PS3 at the weekend and have indeed spotted this problem with Blu-Rays, 1080p based games and up-scaled media from the NAS. It is a tad annoying, but sometimes I forget about it after a while (maybe I just tune it out). I only ask this because the dealer wants to charge me for upgrading the software. So if it fixes the issue (and adds other features), I may have to pay the money.

JoC

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

a2bur — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:59:05 GMT

Got my set last Friday and have today updated the software to 4.12 , also put in Ps3 ( via a NYKO ) , Ipod and Sky Hd control software , don't know what can be done with the Ipod yet . Forgot to ask about 24fprs , but will find out tomorrow .

Richard

Re: Latest Sw for Beovision 7-40 Mark III

martin01 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:55:24 GMT

Do you really think that 4.03 sw will support 24 frames? I thought Beosystem 3 had to be hardware-upgraded. Does anybody know if B&O can confirm this with 24fprs with software 4.03?

/Martin