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Re: BV6-26 & HD

BarryAndrew — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:37:15 GMT

I have dealt with them for eight years or so and have been content with their service until recently. I was even content when I bought this lcd.

The point you make is a very good one but concerning when you spend your money on high value products. If the rate of technological change is so fast that a tv purchased in May 2005 is technologically obsolete by 2009 then its an irrational economic decision to buy B&O. Longevity is what we all buy into in addition to design, performance etc. Without the stb my set would be useless by 2009 without me spending more money on it.

Re: BV6-26 & HD

splud — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:56:10 GMT

I too bought my set from the dealer in Truro, Cornwall, who provided a great service. No-one at the time knew what the HD world was going to do at the time. The biggest problem is HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) it stops HD from being played back via blue ray disc etc. What is needed for the BV6's is a HDCP adaptor to plug in, to bring the set up to date. That way we could still use the DVI port for HD content.

The other thing is I wish there was a way to link the DVI port to the Digital line input for 5.1 sound??? I would be very happy if anyone knows how to do this? At the moment i can only link the digital inputs to the scart inputs!

Thanks

Re: BV6-26 & HD

Peter — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:29:29 GMT

thavn:
Hello!

I'm new to this forum, and I have a question...

Most of you are not conserned that the BV6 is not HD ready, but from what I understand you cannot watch this TV when the broadcasts will be HD in the future..? And when the the futore living room TV's have Blue ray DVDs you cannot watch it on your BV6 in the bedroom.

I too have a BV6-26 (a few years old), and the picture is great, and it sounds and look very good indeed. However it would be nice if is possible to upgrade it to work also in the future.

But maybe I have misunderstood something?

Best regards, Torbjorn

You will still be able to watch the TV. The STB you use will downscale to the definition you have. Don't confuse Digital with HD. There are lots of Digital channels and a few HD ones. You can watch HD on a non HD set - but as the HD comes at a premium, there isn't much point! Equally Blu-ray will play through any set you want as long as the connections are available. To be honest, on sets less than 32", the benefits of HD are distinctly debatable and in fact normal SD pictures could easily be better. As screen technology improves, the last point will become less true but at present, don't get too hung up about things!

Re: BV6-26 & HD

BarryAndrew — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:13 GMT

Yes I can truly understand the spirit of your e-mail. I am sure that my dealer would have a different view and am open minded enough to freely acknowledge that. However I came away (mistaken--misunderstood or otherwise) really believing that I had an HD capability through the limited means of a DVI. This belief was so burnt within me that I have been telling everyone who has asked that it could receive HD pictures through the DVI and was the reason for the shock on my part when I found out otherwise.

My dealer is B&O in this area. There is NO alternative with the exception of using secondhand which is what I have been doing recently. I cannot go down the road and go to an alternative dealer. There is one for the whole of Cornwall with only one shop. Thats it!

Re: BV6-26 & HD

meandmyshadow — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:58:43 GMT

BarryAndrew:

I am not sure that anyone should say that you do not need an HD picture on a 26". Beobirds comments coincide with my experience here. If its <1.5 metres then it may be worth having and in consequence should be provided.
My dealer had a BV6-26 next to a 7-32?(could have been a 40) and dared me to guess which was operating on HD and which on SD. To me it was bloody obvious and it was the 7 that was HD. The detail was much better but I was quite close at the time - the size of the shop prevented a distance comparison.
To those who say just find another dealer then I say its easier said than done. I am in Truro, Cornwall and the nearest B&O dealer to Truro is Exeter which means its great if you want to collect but no good for installation and back up. I have recently abandoned my dealer and have been buying from Lee, whose customer service far exceeds the standards of my formal dealer. There are many that could learn from his approach.
Why should Keith, Zwets and myself believe that what they bought could handle HD reception only to find that they couldn't? Is it because we were misled? (either by the dealer or by B&O's advice to the dealer). Do they think so little of us as customers that they feel they are strong enough to do this?

Unfortunately you are in a poor position as far as dealers go and your frustration should be directed at your dealer and not B&O. Dealers were fully aware of the HD possibilities of all TV's and knew the various roll out dates of when TV's could be upgraded or would come as factory standard. It does sound from your posts that you were misled, this of course is only one side of the story and I would imagine your dealer would have a different take on it. B&O would certainly not want to give poor customer service and I suspect you probably had an over zealous salesman who was going to tell you what ever you wanted to hear. In my experience this is not the norm, there are some fantastic dealers out there who are always helpful it is just a shame that you do not have another dealer to choose from. If you do feel that you have been misled then you should take it up with Truro, if you do not get a satisfactory result perhaps you should consider writing to B&O UK.

Re: BV6-26 & HD

thavn — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:31:25 GMT

Hello!

I'm new to this forum, and I have a question...

Most of you are not conserned that the BV6 is not HD ready, but from what I understand you cannot watch this TV when the broadcasts will be HD in the future..? And when the the futore living room TV's have Blue ray DVDs you cannot watch it on your BV6 in the bedroom.

I too have a BV6-26 (a few years old), and the picture is great, and it sounds and look very good indeed. However it would be nice if is possible to upgrade it to work also in the future.

But maybe I have misunderstood something?

Best regards, Torbjorn

Re: BV6-26 & HD

Keith Saunders — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:41:11 GMT

The current model does NOT have HDMI

However the DVI-I connector in if used as HD input does support HDCP

Re: BV6-26 & HD

Ian — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:10:15 GMT

Does the current model feature HDMI? or is it still DVI? is there any difference with a Pre-Jan-06 upgraded model and a new one bought today?

Ian

Re: BV6-26 & HD

BarryAndrew — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:27:15 GMT

Zwets has sent me a copy of a document which makes the situation clearer. According to what I see you cannot guarantee having an HD ready 6-26 until January 2006. There are a few months before that when you have an increasing chance of getting one as stock changes over.

As I have said before I feel very aggrieved at this because I did ask and let me assure you that nobody said that if you defer your purchase till Jan 2006 then you will get an HD ready set. We live in a world were it is not what is said that is important but what is unsaid. It also makes the 2006 model that I missed on Lee's site more significant than I thought. I never at any stage believed that my 2005 model was not HD although it was through DVI not HDMI.

If I am going to be so dissappointed after paying so much my only conclusion is that I had might as well pay a lot less. It may be the very best 26inch lcd TV around but its an analogue non HD TV which wont be the best around soon.

Re: BV6-26 & HD

BarryAndrew — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:39:58 GMT

I am not sure that anyone should say that you do not need an HD picture on a 26". Beobirds comments coincide with my experience here. If its <1.5 metres then it may be worth having and in consequence should be provided.

My dealer had a BV6-26 next to a 7-32?(could have been a 40) and dared me to guess which was operating on HD and which on SD. To me it was bloody obvious and it was the 7 that was HD. The detail was much better but I was quite close at the time - the size of the shop prevented a distance comparison.

To those who say just find another dealer then I say its easier said than done. I am in Truro, Cornwall and the nearest B&O dealer to Truro is Exeter which means its great if you want to collect but no good for installation and back up. I have recently abandoned my dealer and have been buying from Lee, whose customer service far exceeds the standards of my formal dealer. There are many that could learn from his approach.

Why should Keith, Zwets and myself believe that what they bought could handle HD reception only to find that they couldn't? Is it because we were misled? (either by the dealer or by B&O's advice to the dealer). Do they think so little of us as customers that they feel they are strong enough to do this?

Re: BV6-26 & HD

splud — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:19:41 GMT

Could not get the menu working with the red button, but did work with 0,0,GO...No sign of HDTV though. TV type is 9252.

All I'm wanting is to make th TV HDCP compatible, so I can use the PS3 for digital sound?

Cheers TC

Re: BV6-26 & HD

splud — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:15:10 GMT

Hi Keith

Thanks for that, I'll check tonight after work.

Cheers

Re: BV6-26 & HD

Keith Saunders — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:54:55 GMT

TC,

If you have a Mark I Beovision 6-26 then it will NOT be HD ready. You can check the status by going into the Customer Service Menu which I outlined in the other thread HERE If there is no HD menu, you do not have an HD ready Beovision 6-26

The HD kit does NOT provide a HDMI port.

Re: BV6-26 & HD

splud — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:35:37 GMT

Hi, I too have a BV6 -26 (I think Mark I?) It has a DVI port on it and works with a PC attached at 1268 x 768. Does this mean i have the HD kit installed or does the HD kit come with an HDMI port?

Also it there anyway of linking the DVI port to the Digital sound input for 5.1 surround sound?? (PS3 gaming)

Cheers TC

Re: BV6-26 & HD

The Beonic Man — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:52:45 GMT

Sorry to hear about your loss BarryAndrew, it must be difficult emotionally as you mentioned. I lost my father to cancer (two brain tumours) recently so I can empathise a little with what you might be going through. I hope you have a good support network through friends and family. Bereavment counselling can also be a great source of support and understanding. http://www.bacp.co.uk

I think you have been given some sound advice in all the comments previously posted. Indeed I have a great interest in current television/broadcast technologies which I follow passionately. It does seem that on such a screen size HD really is not noticeable. Every article I have read on the subject suggests this; it seems widely accepted that unless you are going above 32 inches (or thereabouts) then HD is not really a concern. However, I understand it is a matter of principle regardless. The set that you have produces an incredible picture that would be heard to beat so I think you can feel quite assured and confident that you have the best of the best, which is what you would expect from B&O.

Technology does move at such a rapid pace now that even something a few months old is considered outdated. We are all up against that and it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't know the dealer you bought your equipment from but I do know that most, if not all, go out of their way when it comes to customer satisfaction. So, if for any reason you want to return your set, change it or complain further, then do of course get in touch with them to discuss it. This is one thing I like very much about B&O and why I shop with them. I will always make a purchase from a company that holds and values customer service as an absolute priority and so far, B&O have never given me reason to think otherwise. If you do come accross a 'bad egg' then go elsewhere. Come to think of it there is one dealer who I really didn't like at all. I won't use this forum for deformation of character purposes but suffice to say his unprofessional and rude attitutude lost him a signifcant sale. Aside from that one experience, I have always found every other B&O dealer I visited to be fantastic.

Best wishes.

Simon.