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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74146.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:44:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74146</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74146.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74146</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Really? Never heard of that before, I wonder why they&amp;#39;d remove the innards?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To buy new &amp;#39;outards&amp;#39; and make themselves a new pair on the cheap!!?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well you would have thought, but the cost of building the whole lot must be quite high. They aren't exactly 'drivers and wires' inside so I'd expect the time and effort involved in rebuilding them must be huge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74125.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:26:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74125</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74125.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74125</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Henry:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Haha... probably stuffs a 25W Hitachi computer speaker inside the hollow BeoLab 5!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

:D :D of course&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74120.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:03:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74120</guid><dc:creator>Stars</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74120.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74120</wfw:commentRss><description>Haha... probably stuffs a 25W Hitachi computer speaker inside the hollow BeoLab 5!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74112.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:17:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74112</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74112.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74112</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Really? Never heard of that before, I wonder why they&amp;#39;d remove the innards?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To buy new &amp;#39;outards&amp;#39; and make themselves a new pair on the cheap!!?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74111.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:16:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74111</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74111.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74111</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I heard about the selling of &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; BL5s without the drivers and ICE,DSP unit inside. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Exactly what I was thinking. A dealer once told that one of his costumers had bought a pair of empty BL8000 on ebay...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74107.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:58:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74107</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74107.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74107</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Really? Never heard of that before, I wonder why they'd remove the innards?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74102.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:33:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74102</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74102.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74102</wfw:commentRss><description>I heard about the selling of &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; BL5s without the drivers and ICE,DSP unit inside. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74085.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:46:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74085</guid><dc:creator>GuyHui </dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74085.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74085</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Craig:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Remember the old saying &amp;quot;If it is too good to be true, then it is&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Craig&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I really was going to say it, but you were the first&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Meantime, when things become complicated, when the seller isn&amp;#39;t willing to respond to all of your questions or&amp;nbsp;becomes evasive according to his answers, beware !!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Guy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74076.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:17:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74076</guid><dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74076.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74076</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Remember the old saying &amp;quot;If it is too good to be true, then it is&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Craig&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74047.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:20:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74047</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74047.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74047</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If they are stolen, then they'll be stuck in PIN code protection, so ask if you can see/hear them working first. If he refuses, then the likelihood is they're stolen. Or you could ask him for the serial number so you can check 'which version they are', and then ring a dealer to see if they're registered as stolen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either way, they aren't 'fakes'. They'd be too difficult to build...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74043.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:39:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74043</guid><dc:creator>Xing</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74043.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74043</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I would have the opportunity to see&amp;amp;test the speakers. No mail order I pay cash &amp;amp; carry the speakers. No shady address.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just curious: Which sound is the speaker making while measuring the room with the built-in speaker. Is there any MP3 recording available on the net to check against the offered speakers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I have the serial numbers and contacted B&amp;amp;O but they do not have a list of stolen items. They told me I have to contact the dealer in question.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Xing&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74038.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:21:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74038</guid><dc:creator>wirralsimon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74038.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74038</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If contact is by cellphone and email only and electronic payment is requested in advance the most likely explanation is that the speakers do not exist at all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It would be vary hard to make fake Lab5&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp; that couldn&amp;#39;t be detected within 5 minutes of listening to them. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Simon&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74028.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:47:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74028</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74028.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74028</wfw:commentRss><description>I doubt they are fake but I would check that they are not stolen or not paid for! Serial numbers would be nice to check with B&amp;amp;O. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Fake Beolab 5 speakers?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74025.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:44:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:74025</guid><dc:creator>Xing</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/74025.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=74025</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I found an offer for quite &amp;quot;inexpensive&amp;quot; pair of Beolab 5 speakers (US$10,000) in perfect condition and all papers and accessories included.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The offer is somehow strange. They are offered by a Bulgarian pretending to be on leaving the country. Only cell phone numbers, etc. and because the fact that he dropped his offer from initial $15,000 quickly.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;this leads me to the question whether any of you are aware of any counterfeit speakers? Do they already exist for Beolab5?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your feedback would be very much appreciated. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Xing&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>