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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
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If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61638.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:27:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61638</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61638.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61638</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;dilznik:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;The Stig - ver. 1.5:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;dilznik:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not heard the new 4000s with the ICE amplifiers though.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm... I just got some used ones.&amp;nbsp; When did they start using ICE amps?&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to tell whether or not mine have that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MKII doesn&amp;#39;t have an on/off button on the front, came in&amp;nbsp;2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think the Mk 1 is the one to have. I am worried that the Mk 2 has ICE for financial reasons rather than sound quality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah okay, so it&amp;#39;s very new.&amp;nbsp; Mine have the on/off switch.&amp;nbsp; Eh, they still sound good for what I do with them which is merely attach them to the RCA outputs on my TV.&amp;nbsp; Bose Mediamate my butt!&amp;nbsp; The BL4000 smoke them.&amp;nbsp; And for the outrageously marked up price of the Bose thing I was able to get used BL4000s for the same price.&amp;nbsp; Woohoo!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61618.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:00:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61618</guid><dc:creator>Flappo The Grate</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61618.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61618</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i love the look of the 4000&amp;#39;s&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;particularly in colour&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61463.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:11:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61463</guid><dc:creator>dilznik</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61463.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61463</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;The Stig - ver. 1.5:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;dilznik:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not heard the new 4000s with the ICE amplifiers though.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm... I just got some used ones.&amp;nbsp; When did they start using ICE amps?&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to tell whether or not mine have that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MKII doesn&amp;#39;t have an on/off button on the front, came in&amp;nbsp;2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah okay, so it&amp;#39;s very new.&amp;nbsp; Mine have the on/off switch.&amp;nbsp; Eh, they still sound good for what I do with them which is merely attach them to the RCA outputs on my TV.&amp;nbsp; Bose Mediamate my butt!&amp;nbsp; The BL4000 smoke them.&amp;nbsp; And for the outrageously marked up price of the Bose thing I was able to get used BL4000s for the same price.&amp;nbsp; Woohoo!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61413.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:52:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61413</guid><dc:creator>darioazul</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61413.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61413</wfw:commentRss><description>Dear All:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The BL 8000 are better than BL 4000 for your needs, classical music.&amp;nbsp; The sound is fuller; the highs are clearer and brighter; mids are dynamic; however, bass is limited.&amp;nbsp; You will not be able to pump-out anything less 45hz. &amp;nbsp; In other words, you will need the BL 2 for real lows; though, I find the BL 2 a bit &amp;#39;slow.&amp;#39;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Dario&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61352.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:38:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61352</guid><dc:creator>Beolab</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61352.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61352</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Have anyone&amp;nbsp;listened to 4000 MK II and compared them to the 4000&amp;nbsp;Mk I ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is&amp;nbsp;the sound better or ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61342.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:19:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61342</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61342.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61342</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Get a pair of S120s or S75s. Cheaper and I wouldn&amp;#39;t be surprised if they outperformed the 4000s!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Agree with you Peter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61326.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:46:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61326</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61326.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61326</wfw:commentRss><description>Get a pair of S120s or S75s. Cheaper and I wouldn&amp;#39;t be surprised if they outperformed the 4000s!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61322.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:44:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61322</guid><dc:creator>jc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61322.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61322</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I plan to use the speakers with a beocenter 9500, currently using old but in my opinion&amp;nbsp;beautiful sounding&amp;nbsp;s45-2&amp;#39;s passive speakers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why new speakers then? Well, thinking newer active speakers would sound&amp;nbsp;even better, and a better match with the sleek modern Jensen design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;George&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61319.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:37:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61319</guid><dc:creator>The Stig - ver. 1.7</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61319.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61319</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;dilznik:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not heard the new 4000s with the ICE amplifiers though.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm... I just got some used ones.&amp;nbsp; When did they start using ICE amps?&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to tell whether or not mine have that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MKII doesn&amp;#39;t have an on/off button on the front, came in&amp;nbsp;2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61251.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:37:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61251</guid><dc:creator>PhilLondon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61251.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61251</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The Beolab 8000 are the best speakers at a reasonable price, after you&amp;#39;ve got to go Beolab 9 or 5, but the price is much more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;p.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61250.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:35:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61250</guid><dc:creator>dilznik</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61250.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61250</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not heard the new 4000s with the ICE amplifiers though.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm... I just got some used ones.&amp;nbsp; When did they start using ICE amps?&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to tell whether or not mine have that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61245.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:54:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61245</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61245.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61245</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I have 4000s and have listened to 8000s extensively. The 8000s are superior in my view by a fair margin. Similar levels of bass but the 8000s seem more detailed and a little less boomy than the 4000s. The 4000s will also shriek earlier when going loud! Distortion in the top end I suppose. I have not heard the new 4000s with the ICE amplifiers though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The 4000s are much easier to position though!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Beolab 4000 vs Beolab 8000</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61239.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:19:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:61239</guid><dc:creator>jc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/61239.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=61239</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;An&amp;nbsp;previous post compared the 6000 with the 8000. Regarding the price of the speakers, a comparison between the beolab 4000 - beolab 8000 does also make sense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think from a design point of view both are very B&amp;amp;O, perhaps the 4000&amp;#39;s are a bit less 90&amp;#39;s.&amp;nbsp;Does the sound differ much? On paper the 8000 is more powerfull, but it is the quality of the sound that interests me. I&amp;#39;m looking for a speaker that gives a natural sound, especially with classical music.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;george&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>