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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60619.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:34:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60619</guid><dc:creator>meandmyshadow</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60619.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60619</wfw:commentRss><description>If, as was the case here, they had supplied me with the digital receiver at the same time and not shown me the full function, then yes, I would point the finger.&amp;nbsp; Legally I would not have a leg to stand on, but if I new the reason for the early demise of my Avant was due to lack of proper instruction on delivery of the equipment, then I would be very dissapointed with the service I had paid a premium for.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60618.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:17:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60618</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60618.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60618</wfw:commentRss><description>I understand what you meant, and I would have done the same.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But would you blame your dealer if he had not told you how to mute the picture and would have the same problem now?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60595.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:54:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60595</guid><dc:creator>meandmyshadow</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60595.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60595</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know how it works in your country, but in the UK the dealer has a responsibility to install and give full instruction on products they sell.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The point I have been making is don&amp;#39;t write it off just&amp;nbsp;yet, speak to the dealer, get the service counters, ask B&amp;amp;O and they might be a positive outcome.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60594.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:45:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60594</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60594.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60594</wfw:commentRss><description>I think this is off-topic now, but it sure is interesting: is it the dealers job to show the costumer how to mute the picture?&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;IMO: no. The dealer shows the basic functions of the product, the rest is up to the costumer and can be found in manuals... or he can ask on beoworld.org &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60570.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:38:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60570</guid><dc:creator>meandmyshadow</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60570.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60570</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;saf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;True ... On the one hand I agree that 12 hours of watching TV everyday is quite a long time (luxury to some &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt; , perhaps), but on the other hand, there is nothing mentioned in the B&amp;amp;O manual eg,&amp;nbsp;that if you do that and the product fails&amp;nbsp;it&amp;#39;s your &amp;#39;fault&amp;#39; ...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
No, it isn&amp;#39;t the individuals fault, infact in this case I would blame the dealer who installed the TV for not telling them how to mute the picture.&amp;nbsp; But the point is, it was used constantly and therefore the life of the TV in relative years was shorter.&amp;nbsp; We know that on average viewing B&amp;amp;O TV&amp;#39;s have a life span of 10 years plus, I personally have an Avant of that age, but in this case it was not average viewing.The point I was making was, if the BV3 has had less use than what B&amp;amp;O consider is acceptable for tube life (I have no idea what that would be, let&amp;#39;s say 10,000 hours) then they may offer to help, it would not be the first time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60494.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:30:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60494</guid><dc:creator>saf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60494.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60494</wfw:commentRss><description>True ... On the one hand I agree that 12 hours of watching TV everyday is quite a long time (luxury to some &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt; , perhaps), but on the other hand, there is nothing mentioned in the B&amp;amp;O manual eg,&amp;nbsp;that if you do that and the product fails&amp;nbsp;it&amp;#39;s your &amp;#39;fault&amp;#39; ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60473.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:04:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60473</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60473.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60473</wfw:commentRss><description>How much is &amp;quot;very little&amp;quot;? Sounds a little arbitrary to me...&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60417.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:01:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60417</guid><dc:creator>meandmyshadow</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60417.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60417</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;rickluuk:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;The tube of my Beovision 3 just brokedown, after 6 years already.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Now I am considering to buy a Beovision 8 32&amp;quot; , but this one doesnot have a surround sound module.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will this be available soon?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First thing to do is get your dealer to check the useage, if it is shown to have had very little use in the 6 years that you have had it, B&amp;amp;O may consider replacing the tube and you pay the engineers charge.&amp;nbsp; If however it shows that the TV has had a lot of use they will not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know a couple who&amp;#39;s Avant tube blew after about 6 years, they insisted that they did not watch that much television.&amp;nbsp; This was true but on calling up the service menu it showed use of&amp;nbsp;about&amp;nbsp;20,000&amp;nbsp;hours.&amp;nbsp; After some conversation, it turned out that almost every day&amp;nbsp;she would put on the digital radio via Sky, what she did not do was turn off the screen.&amp;nbsp; The Avant had an image on the screen for about 12 hours a day, nearly every day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not suggesting that this is the case for you but if the BV3 has only light use B&amp;amp;O may be&amp;nbsp;sympathetic.&amp;nbsp; Not guaranteed though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60346.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:24:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60346</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60346.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60346</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;6 years isn&amp;#39;t very long.. i have to wonder if there is some outside influence that has caused the tube to go.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure that the BV3 has a better picture than the BV8. BV8 is pretty awesome on&amp;nbsp; picture but the sound isn&amp;#39;t as good as the BV3 on sound, although still very good.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you use your BV3 for surround sound, because if you just want to add a pair of speakers you can just plug them into the BV8.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;jazz&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60164.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60164</guid><dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60164.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60164</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Well this is the first time I have heard of the Tube going in a BV3. Mine is 3 Years old this Month, I hope it has nore than 3 Years life left in it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Craig&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60077.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:33:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60077</guid><dc:creator>Ignace</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60077.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60077</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Press information: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why is a DSS module not available?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;BeoVision 8 is designed and positioned as the flexible television meant to be used for casual entertainment,&lt;br /&gt;not dedicated home-cinema viewing - for this purpose concepts like BeoCenter 6-26,&lt;br /&gt;BeoVision 7, BeoVision 9 and BeoVision 4 are recommended.&lt;br /&gt;However, remember that it is possible to add two extra speakers and a subwoofer to BeoVision 8&lt;br /&gt;for a more powerful and intense sound experience.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60056.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:44:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60056</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60056.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60056</wfw:commentRss><description>That&amp;#39;s right, the BV8 has a good picture quility, and the (stero-) sound is even more impressive considering the size of the unit. But I doubt that the picture quality is better then on BV3...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60041.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:52:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60041</guid><dc:creator>rickluuk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60041.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60041</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;that could be considered, but I also read some independent reviews that the BV8 has a really good&amp;nbsp;picture and sound and its score is 8 (out of 10) on picture and sound.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60039.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:42:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60039</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60039.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60039</wfw:commentRss><description>Even if the BV8 would have a sourround sound module, I would advise you to keep the BV3 and replace the tube, unless you don&amp;#39;t like it anymore.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 8</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60037.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:30:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:60037</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/60037.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=60037</wfw:commentRss><description>Just replace the tube! 6 years isn&amp;#39;t very long, and the BV8 will never have a surround module.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>