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Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Peter Pan — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:43:22 GMT

Yes, and the right way to connection a sub to day 2008, also to Beolab 2 er.

Wiring diagrams. Forbindelse af Subwoofer til B&O's Power link. Eks:

Peter Pan.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

DoubleU — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:58:12 GMT

1st, I know the signal-out leads from the pins of PL and DIN-AUX are mirrored or in an opposite way.

2nd, the drawing I was refering to, the one Beobird posted and made by you, says the PL-out goes to the sub. (Which is the right thing to do)

What is confusing me is that you say it has to be connected through AUX, which is not right. Because:

3rd, the A.AUX (not the PL) of a BS9000 is a fixed signal. Volume of the BS9000 is not relevant. If you connect these leads to any sub, the volume is not controllable, thus very loud in this case.

To resume, the A.AUX cannot be used. The sub has to be controlled through PL.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Peter Pan — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:19:40 GMT

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Peter Pan — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:14:41 GMT

PowerLink MK III. Cable connection.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

DoubleU — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:43:43 GMT

It doesnt matter what plug you use, 7pin AUX or 8-pin PL.

Both will fit and work.

In this drawing pin4 (solder side) is your right signal, pin 1 is your left signal. Pin 3 (blue wire) is not used.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Peter Pan — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:11:26 GMT

DoubleU you hav wrong:
The blue wire should go to pin 1. Red wire to pin 4.
Thes is out from DIN 7 pol AUX, not from DIN 8 pol PowerLink
http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32157&PN=0&TPN=4
Peter Pan

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

DoubleU — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:45:16 GMT

Beobird:

Before anyone is attempting to make this PL - RCA cable, it is not going to work!!! The wiring on the PL-plug is mirrored.

The blue wire should go to pin 1.

Red wire to pin 4.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

sharif — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:14:40 GMT

BarryAndrew:
In my complete ignorance I thought that as the red wire didn't go anywhere it was there to confuse the B&O system that it was B&O that was present -- from what you are saying, Peter, this is a one side of the stereo only arrangement.
This is rather annoying to say the least. The 8000's have RCA compatibility and fire up on a signal (according to the manual) is this likely to happen with non B&O sub-woofers. A Non- B&O subwoofer should be the easiest to put in the system because of the abundance of active equipment.
In an RCA arrangement you would expect two pins and not one and the sub-woofers would have two sockets to take left and right. Do you think this was drawn this way to illustrate the wiring of one of the pins with the red and (another)ground going to the other pin?

If you look at the PV1 sub for example it only has the one input. A stereo input. This is now common on a lot of subwoofers. On this diagram it is only showing one channel input from what I can seen. The red wire is not there to fool anything as it is not connected to anything.

The other point is that a small amount of current is sent down one of the pins in the PL cable which tells the 8000's to turn on, not the signal.

I have had enough of trying to get my head around this!!

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

BarryAndrew — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:09:09 GMT

In my complete ignorance I thought that as the red wire didn't go anywhere it was there to confuse the B&O system that it was B&O that was present -- from what you are saying, Peter, this is a one side of the stereo only arrangement.

This is rather annoying to say the least. The 8000's have RCA compatibility and fire up on a signal (according to the manual) is this likely to happen with non B&O sub-woofers. A Non- B&O subwoofer should be the easiest to put in the system because of the abundance of active equipment.

In an RCA arrangement you would expect two pins and not one and the sub-woofers would have two sockets to take left and right. Do you think this was drawn this way to illustrate the wiring of one of the pins with the red and (another)ground going to the other pin?

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

sharif — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:27:26 GMT

Peter:
Possibly being stupid here, but looking at the diagram above, surely not doing anything with the feed from the red wire means that you will only get the left channel going through the sub. Pin 2 is ground and pin 3 left and pin 5 right.

Why do think I bought a BL2!!! This diagram is so confusing I personally thought the same thing, but do you join the left and right feed together to get a stereo bass sound?

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Peter — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:00:00 GMT

Possibly being stupid here, but looking at the diagram above, surely not doing anything with the feed from the red wire means that you will only get the left channel going through the sub. Pin 2 is ground and pin 3 left and pin 5 right.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

sharif — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:38:42 GMT

Beobird:
sharif:
Thanks for all the info....but after much soul searching I decided to buy a Beolab2 this afternoon.
So glad I did........System now sounds awesome.
Thanks again guys
I can respect that, because it's very hard to put a non-B&O item into you B&O collection . Last year I had to choose between the BV6 and a Pioneer Kuro and it was very very hard to choose, because all my other component are all B&O. In the end I choose for the Pioneer, because of the better and bigger image. After that non-B&O item it was easier to buy other non-B&O items (such as a hdd recorder), but sometimes I wished I had taken the B&O (integration with my other equipment and the pretty looks).
Wish you much fun with your BL2

Rogér

Thanks Chap!!!

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

sharif — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:37:06 GMT

I see you can buy this cable from ebay and B&O itself, but what about the cable from the din to RCA? Where do you but this from?

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

sharif — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:28:13 GMT

I have contacted loads of people yesterday trying to find a solution to this problem. I also looked at beotech website for the wiring diagrams but as I am no technician I found it hard to get my head around.

A lot of people on this forum say that B&O can supply the leads required but every dealer I have spoke to have all told me no! I contacted B&W and emailed them this diagram and the wiring diagram, but the answer the salesman gave was complete jargen. B&O can supply a din splitter but not the din to RCA lead which is the one you need.

Looking at the diagram and the wiring diagram form beotech, it looks like the wire is the right signal output so it would not turn the sub on and off. You need phantom power for that but its not shown on this diagram.

In the end, I gave up and bought BL2.

If there is someone on here who has bought a Din to phone lead or has made lead should post there details on here and maybe make them to order as there is no one i contacted yesterday ( inc Maplins) who are prepared to make this lead.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

zaurgly — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:11:11 GMT

Beobird:

Great diagram! Thanks!

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Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

DoubleU you hav wrong: The blue wire should go to pin 1. Red wire to pin 4. Thes is out from DIN 7 pol AUX, not from DIN 8 pol PowerLinkhttp://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32157&PN=0&TPN=4Peter Pan

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

Re: Can I use a Non B&O Sub with a Beosound3000 and Beolab6000's.

DoubleU you hav wrong:
The blue wire should go to pin 1. Red wire to pin 4.
Thes is out from DIN 7 pol AUX, not from DIN 8 pol PowerLink
http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32157&PN=0&TPN=4
Peter Pan