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Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

prototek — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:07:22 GMT

Peter:
Not bad if mounted properly. I would suggest changing the capacitors in the cross over if they sound dull - works wonders.

I'm quite handy with a soldering iron. Which caps would you suggest as a replacement?

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Peter — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:33:45 GMT

On that note, I attach a photo of the capacitors removed from my M100s!

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Peter — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:25:23 GMT

Not bad if mounted properly. I would suggest changing the capacitors in the cross over if they sound dull - works wonders.

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

prototek — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:12:55 GMT

Yeah... I think you guys made it clear to me which one is technically superior. I'm still gonna go check it out though. Who knows? Maybe I'll get it. It comes with Red Lines. Personally, I've never heard anything through them. How are they?

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Dave — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:40:11 GMT

It's clear cut. Keep your 4500. Buy yourself a treat instead of upgrading. As i said earlier, maybe a BeoLink7000.

P.S. the 9500 is drool worthy and i am EXTREMELY jealous of the guy who won it last month!

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

TheTinman — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:40:03 GMT

Well, if you look at it technologically only, the 9000 would be a small downgrade. It is older internally. The 4500 is based on the 9500, with newer components and a newer laser assembly. However, if you have ONLY a beomaster 4500 without the CD, etc... I'd go for it.

The 9000 is pretty easy to service, and I'd bet the door(s) just need new belts. Also the CDM-2 laser is easier to get if you need one.

The amplifier is 30watts instead of 40 for the 4500. I'd take it regardless.

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

prototek — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:08:34 GMT

Guys! This got a little out of hand.... Yes, the 9500 is one of the coolest looking B&O system's made. BUT.... I'm talking about the 9000. If it was a 9500 I wouldn't have to ask to make my decision. :)

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Peter — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:30:34 GMT

francoisvl:
The Lasers on the 9000 have started to give problems and there are no replacements. So if you can't fix it then you're stuck with a unit that can no longer play cd's. 4500 hasn't been giving any laser problems that I know of. They are both beautiful items but I think that 4500 is a better bet especially as you know its in good condition. The 9000 you are wanting to buy is already having problems, so who knows what might go wrong next?

Actually, I had a new laser in my CD4500! Knowing what I do now, it might have been a component failure rather than the actual laser assembly, but it had a complete assembly fitted!

I love the 9500 though - I should say that I too have a 9500 rather than a 4500 - it takes up less space if table mounted and I think the display is better. Sound quality seems pretty similar though the cassette in the 9500 is better.

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

TheTinman — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:54:09 GMT

I had the same problem. The solution was to have BOTH. I now the proud and very happy owner of a complete Beosystem 4500 AND a Beocenter 9500. There's always room for both in the house.

And I very much like the look of both. Not too smitten with B&O's newer systems except the Beosystem 9000.

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

BenSA — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:18:04 GMT

The Lasers on the 9000 have started to give problems and there are no replacements. So if you can't fix it then you're stuck with a unit that can no longer play cd's. 4500 hasn't been giving any laser problems that I know of. They are both beautiful items but I think that 4500 is a better bet especially as you know its in good condition. The 9000 you are wanting to buy is already having problems, so who knows what might go wrong next?

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

prototek — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:09:16 GMT

Peter:
The lasers in 9000s seem to be giving problems more I have heard and although Graham seems to be able to fix them, this is a consideration.

Peter, you'll have to excuse me, but what do you mean about the "lasers"?

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

prototek — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:05:37 GMT

Ah, Beobird. Yes, the 9500 is probably one of my favorite units. Now if I could find that for the same price of the 9000... my 4500 would be out the door already.

BTW, I thought the 9500 was discontinued at least 7 years ago. Yesterday I saw someone selling one that was manufactured last year. Supposedly they are still readily available in Denmark/parts of Europe. Can anyone confirm/expound on this?

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Beobird — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:13:17 GMT

Just look to a nice Beocenter 9500 with a Beogram 9500 and you will be ready for the next 10 years .

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Christian — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:54:19 GMT

I would stay with the 4500. With seperates you can always change a faulty unit. Also I think the Beogram 4500 visually integrates much better with the rest of the 4500, as the BG9000 does with the BC9000.

Re: Keep My 4500 or Get the 9000? Opinions Please.

Peter — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:45:38 GMT

They are actually very similar technically but the 4500 is probably going to be a fair bit newer so I would keep that. It has the Powerlink sockets which the 9000 lacks as well. As stated before, a comparison of the 4500 against a 9500 would be much harder! The lasers in 9000s seem to be giving problems more I have heard and although Graham seems to be able to fix them, this is a consideration.