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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4648.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:51:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4648</guid><dc:creator>saf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4648.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4648</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"&gt;But Alex, if there&amp;#39;s no market established for &amp;quot;cheap&amp;quot; pre-owned&amp;nbsp;BL5s,&amp;nbsp;it means there are no/very few sellers. How can&amp;nbsp;the speakers&amp;nbsp;be&amp;nbsp;rapidly losing its value, then? Unless, as Calvin points out, the dealers know something we don&amp;#39;t.&amp;nbsp;Highly&amp;nbsp;unlikely...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"&gt;On the contrary, the more&amp;nbsp;a dealer&amp;nbsp;would rotate the displayed speakers, the more he would create such a&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;cheap&amp;quot; market around him eroding his own potential profit margins&amp;nbsp;on the items not sold at the&amp;nbsp;new-item price.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"&gt;For a&amp;nbsp;B&amp;amp;O dealer it should not be a matter of death or life to accept&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;cost/depreciation of&amp;nbsp;the displayed/demo speakers. After all, if&amp;nbsp;new B&amp;amp;O would&amp;nbsp;lose it&amp;#39;s price rapidly when being sold further, then there clearly would be something wrong with the product/pricing etc. Now, it&amp;#39;s not that such &amp;quot;aggressive&amp;quot; market approach would not work for some time, but it would indicate that&amp;nbsp;B&amp;amp;O business would be&amp;nbsp;similar to, say, car business which&amp;nbsp;generally depends&amp;nbsp;on volumes sold heavily . (Tellingly, Porsche&amp;nbsp;in it&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;niche is the most profitable car manufacturer...)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4534.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:36:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4534</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4534.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4534</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Calvin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But then it begs the question of why would a dealer want to get rid of them? Unless there&amp;#39;s something uber-secret in the pipeline...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;They don&amp;#39;t want to lose too much value from what they originally paid. As time passes, gear loses it&amp;#39;s value more and more rapidly and if they keep a pair of BL5s for too long, their value will be so low that it would have been cheaper for them to sell the speakers twice as often.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4509.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:02:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4509</guid><dc:creator>Jandyt</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4509.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4509</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s always that bass driver that keeps popping up on eBay &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-61.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or wait til Lee starts giving them as prizes to gold members&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-55.gif" alt="Idea" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andy T.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4507.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:01:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4507</guid><dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4507.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4507</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, they are truly awesome speakers!&amp;nbsp; I cannot help grinning whenever i hear them.. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a &amp;#39;new&amp;#39; pair, ex demo, you will probably wrestle a pair off an official dealer for about &amp;pound;8000 if he wants rid of them!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Lee&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But then it begs the question of why would a dealer want to get rid of them? Unless there&amp;#39;s something uber-secret in the pipeline...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4475.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:20:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4475</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4475.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4475</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i have never encountered a pair of bl5 on ebay, and if i remember well, haven&amp;#39;t seen any second life bl5 at all. must be because all of the owners are very happy with them...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i only remember one guy (but not his name) on the old forum who had to sell his bl5 because his neighbours where complaining all the time of to loud music. if i knew who he was, you could send him a pm. sure someone remembers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4474.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4474</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4474.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4474</wfw:commentRss><description>Yes, they are truly awesome speakers!&amp;nbsp; I cannot help grinning whenever i hear them.. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As for them coming up on ebay, i can only recall one genuine pair in about the last 12 months!&amp;nbsp; However, there are normally a few pairs a week littering ebay that are complete scams.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The cheapest pair i have heard sold were for &amp;pound;4,000 privately (not to me), but they can fetch anything up to &amp;pound;6500-7000 for a one or two year old pair. For a &amp;#39;new&amp;#39; pair, ex demo, you will probably wrestle a pair off an official dealer for about &amp;pound;8000 if he wants rid of them!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Lee&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>BeoLab 5</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4467.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:59:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:4467</guid><dc:creator>ouverture</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/4467.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=4467</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;just got back from London, my boss has an apartment there, and in his lounge were a new pair of Beolab 5&amp;#39;s&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://theaudiocritic.com/blog/index.php?op=ViewArticle&amp;amp;articleId=6&amp;amp;blogId=1&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Peter Aczel was right on the money when he did his review a few years ago, they sound great turned up really loud :-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So was Paul Messenger&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; http://www.ultraaudio.com/equipment/bang_olufsen_beolab_5.htm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now I need to really think about putting my Beolab 6000&amp;#39;s in the bedroom and getting a pair of these for the living room ! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do they ever come up on ebay ?&amp;nbsp; I will never be able to afford them new in my lifetime - unless I win the lottery of course &amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>