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Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

beoinbuff — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:44:47 GMT

I have this one with my 4000s: http://velodyne.com/subwoofers/shop-by-series/eq-max-series/eq-max-8.html

Not the prettiest thing but it sounds good and equalization feature worked very well

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Borjal84 — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:11:01 GMT

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speakers/Home_Audio/Subwoofers/PV1D.html

PV1 has a low pass filter

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:30:21 GMT

I need a Sub

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:27:12 GMT

or maybe a beolab1, or a beolab2, to stay full B&O.. which is my love

Who knows ?

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:30:07 GMT

Tis one looks good : http://www.focal.com/en/home-audio-loudspeakers/home-theatre-speakers/subwoofers/chorus-sw-800-v.php

Hopefully RCA out

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Evan — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:14:08 GMT

Immediately I think of the Fostex PM-SUBn. It has in and out, with gain controls. It's also pretty cheap compared to most any other sub. If I remember correctly, it is relatively weak, approx 70w. But it I a sealed cabinet so should fare well regardless.

There are many others. I'll post any if I think of them.

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:00:23 GMT

Thank you very much Evan

With my limited knowledge, i came aproximately to the same conlclusion.

And I was already trying to find it on google ("active Sub with output signal" or "active Sub with pass through") ).So i guess, i have 2 options :

- Get a B&O sub (BL2 or BL11) , maybe BL2 should be best choice => full B&o integration

- Get a Sub with output signal => in fact, more versatile since you can use it with another equipment

If you guys have any idea of a non-B&O Sub that does match these requirements, I woudl greatly appreciate

Thanks

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Evan — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:23:42 GMT

Samir,

mbee has presented a serious topic. A primary reason for adding a subwoofer is for redirecting low tones away from your main speakers (BL3s). The B&W PV1 does not have a pass through, which means it will not do any filtering for your 'Labs, reducing the overall benefit of adding a sub.

Find a suboofer that has inputs AND outputs. Your signal chain will start with your audiomaster, both channels to the sub and then both channels will go from the sub to your 'Labs. All of which will be a 'line-in' setup, no longer Powerlink.

Secondly, ask your local dealer for an in-home demo of the BeoLab 11. If you find the 2 was too powerful, you may end up preferring the less powerful 11. Otherwise, look for a sub that has filtering capability.

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:12:02 GMT

@mbee

what i did not like was that i felt it was way too powerful .. i spent my time playing with my remote, because they "boomed" too much, like an earthquake. But maybe because I did not calibrate them properly (setup & placement).

About dealers in Paris, they told me exactly the same..

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Silou — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:41:20 GMT

Maybe the Revox sound S bass 02

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

mbee — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:34:51 GMT

First : what didn't you like about the BL2?

I'm not sure the BL11 will be good enough with BL3. I think that it's main advantage will be to "deliver" the BL3 from the bass, thus enabling more subtle mids and highs, but basically, a BL11 is just 2 bass drivers from BL3, it doesn't go very deep... I've talked to dealers in Paris at the launch of the BL11, and nobody had it on display with BL3, they all said it was useless...

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:27:48 GMT

Hi Evan

BS4 or Beomaster 6500

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Evan — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:12:20 GMT

I think one vital piece of information you left out was the audio master. Which are you using Samir?

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

Samir — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:07:15 GMT

yes , that's what i thought.

In other hands, BW PV1D is cheaper, more powerful and can be used with any another system (TV..). Also, do you think the Lab11 are powerful enough ?

Thanks

Re: Non-B&O Subwoofer for Beolab 3's ?

mbee — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:40:22 GMT

As nobody has already been able to listen to a PV1D, the answer is complicated... But the PV1 was a good match.

For me there is a big drawback when using non-B&O sub : on a B&O sub, you get Powerlink outputs that filter the low frequencies of the sub. You then get more bass, but also, and it's very noticeable, better mid and highs! I think that you heard it with the BL2. That's not the case with a non-B&O sub.