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Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Carolpa — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:55:36 GMT

Jobak:

Beosound 5 does not support Apple Lossless (yet).

People who can play Apple lossless files have a NAS drive or other server with DLNA software. Which is transcoding the lossless format to some else format, which can be played on Beosound 5.

Hi Jobak,

that's exactly what I also thought when I didn't get any positive response of any other user.

I use Twonky and Twonky has this capability. It does this through a file called "transcode.db". But there is no such a file on my Ubuntu server. And if Twonky would transcode the Apple Lossless to another format, why can't I play these files on the BS5e or the Windows Media Player?

my BM5 versions updates were (latest to the first sw 6.0):

6.05.01.3357 - 6.0.5.00.3166 - 6.05.00.3125 - 6.04.00.2871 - 6.03.01.2599 - 6.02.00.1902 - 6.01.01.6524 - 6.01.00.6456

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Jobak — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:30:53 GMT

Beosound 5 does not support Apple Lossless (yet).

People who can play Apple lossless files have a NAS drive or other server with DLNA software. Which is transcoding the lossless format to some else format, which can be played on Beosound 5.

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

grieg007 — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:28:24 GMT

Thats the same info as my BS5/BM5 that doesnt play back ALAC. Go figure!

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Carolpa — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:32:17 GMT

Bs5/bm5: 6.05.01.3357

Bs5 main firmware 1.33a

Bs5 boot firmware 0.04a

Bm5 ml firmware 2.36

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Stan — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:42:40 GMT

Carolpa:

NO additional " Apple Lossless" codecs installed.

.m4a files are NOT recognized by the WMP on the BM5

For sure, the files were started in the BS5 menu.

Would you mind posting the software version of your BS5?

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

mhslarsen — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:07:07 GMT

On my BS5, I can play ALAC files directly via the twonky (BM). I can select the ALAC files it on the BS5 screen, but it's not playing.

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Karel Uyttendaele — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:45:55 GMT

*BUMP*

Can more than 1 person actualy confirm that Apple Lossless is playing on his BS5?

Karel.

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Carolpa — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:04:46 GMT

nico vercammen:

No idea why it is working for some ...
maybe someone installed an extra codec on the bm5, or is Twonky making a difference ?

Carolpa said earlier in a post :
"There is probably a difference with the most other users. I use Twonky 7.01 on a Ubuntu server (and not the 6.0.3x version)! For the insider; Twonky doesn't transcode the Apple Lossless file!"

Carolpa, did you select the ALAC file with twonky or did you select it on the BS5 screen ?

nico

NO additional " Apple Lossless" codecs installed.

.m4a files are NOT recognized by the WMP on the BM5

For sure, the files were started in the BS5 menu.

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

nico vercammen — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:18:24 GMT

No idea why it is working for some ...
maybe someone installed an extra codec on the bm5, or is Twonky making a difference ?

Carolpa said earlier in a post :
"There is probably a difference with the most other users. I use Twonky 7.01 on a Ubuntu server (and not the 6.0.3x version)! For the insider; Twonky doesn't transcode the Apple Lossless file!"

Carolpa, did you select the ALAC file with twonky or did you select it on the BS5 screen ?

nico

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Karel Uyttendaele — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:00:09 GMT

Is it possible for the Members who can play ALAC to post some kind of versionnr of their latest firmware?

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

grieg007 — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:55:36 GMT

Thats all fine, but why can some members play their ALAC (lossless) files after the update and some (like me and Stan) not?

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

nico vercammen — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:31:30 GMT

This is why I think you can read the tags of an ALAC (apple lossless) file but can not play it on the BS5 :

Both AAC and ALAC formats are stored in an mp4 container file.
So they have both the same .m4a extension.
This is like you have 2 paper enveloppe's each containing a letter in a different language, but the address info on the enveloppe is the same.
I think the tag database is identical for both formats, only the data of the music is different. (MPEG4 tags)
Thats why the BS5 can read the tags of an ALAC file but can not play it.
It can play AAC files without any problem (with the same m4a extension)
So I do not think apple loss less is supported today

nico

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

Stan — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:12:14 GMT

I would think that if the software update officially supported Apple lossless, then the "latest release" screen would say so. It must be some got the wrong version - I recall a few releases ago, I was "lucky" to get a newer release that had some new feature, but also crashed a lot and didn't work that well... However, it is nice to know that this is coming even if it is not hear yet. I've been searching for something to convert my apple lossless into WMA lossless, and I wasn't finding it (although, admittedly, I was doing OK with the mp3s I created instead). No need to search any longer if this is right around the corner.

Stan

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

grieg007 — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:19:55 GMT

My BS5 was updated and I have the same problem as Stan. Song and cover art shows up, even on the Beo6, but Apple Lossless doesnt play. Strange that some get it to work and for others it isnt. Any thoughts?

Re: BS5 supports Apple Lossless

TripEnglish — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:34:31 GMT

The BeoSound 5 communicates to the user that there's been an update and explains in detail what new features have been added and which features may have changed. E-mailing clients is absolutely unrealistic. In my store alone I have a data-base of nearly 8,000 clients. The number of e-mails that bounce back from mass mailings indicates that an e-mail address is not a static form of contact. Add to that the high number of clients who won't give out their e-mail address - even for the utility of warranty information and other notifications.

And of course the liklihood of a client randomly checking the website for updates isn't realistic either.

Ultimately have the notification come through the product itself after the update has taken place is the best way.