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Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Step1 — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:32:36 GMT

Silly question I know, but had to check ;)

AdamS:

Step1:

What speakers will you be running?

Well, it was initially between the Beovox CX50s and a pair of Goodmans Maxims, but in the end I decided on MS150.2s!

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

h1npw — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:40:18 GMT

Never heard of this before - looks like it's worth a visit

Looking forward to seeing your system Adam!

Cheers

Nigel

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

AdamS — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:49:26 GMT

Step1:

What speakers will you be running?

Well, it was initially between the Beovox CX50s and a pair of Goodmans Maxims, but in the end I decided on MS150.2s!

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Step1 — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:25:33 GMT

Adam that sounds interesting, I wonder how the hifi community will recieve this beast then! What speakers will you be running?

I think I might be tempted to come along to this one :)

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

AdamS — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:02:20 GMT

Apologies for the thread hijack and the blatant plug, but my complete Beosystem 8000 will be playing at the Hi-Fi Wigwam Scalford Hall show on March 4th in Melton Mowbray if anyone's interested. (well, it will be as soon as I service the Beogram!)

Details here: http://www.thehifishow.com/

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Peter — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:18:36 GMT

I prefer M100s - I prefer the sound and they look gorgeous! I think my wife would however not be too sad to see the back of those either but they are staying!! I find the veneer on the older Uniphase speakers to have a nicer finish - the later ones seem somehow a bit plastic in comparison. The MS150s are pretty spectacular though - the bass is far better than Pentas with much more detail at low frequencies. As with the Beolab 5s, you don't really realise how loud they are playing unless you are in another room!

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Step1 — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:11:50 GMT

Glad the penta conversion went ok :) IMO it is worthy of the effort to get the best if you want to use the things as passive speakers but retain the amps :)

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

h1npw — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:42:30 GMT

"my wife and I were both fairly pleased to see the back of those!"

Well, Peter, If I'd known that I would have bartered harder!

Seriously though Peter did sell them to me for a very reasonable price especially as they had been professionally refurbished. I love them and can't ever see me selling them until we have to move to somewhere smaller (hopefully not for a while...) They're the actual speakers used in the photos on this and the Beocentral websites.

Tim is the man for any repairs on equipment this age - I hope you can persuade him to help you. He has to be selective in what jobs he takes on or he would be divorced! I would follow previous advice and not use the Beomaster until it's been seen to.

Keep us posted with your progress.

Cheers

Nigel

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

andy — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:50:29 GMT

ok, thats done, despite me somehow ending up with one penta with a female and one with a male...lol...d`oh, thats what you get for doing one in the morning and one at night

anyway, hooked it all up and sounds fantastic, i played my iphone through it (128k) and it sounded just great ))..very pleased, will have to see about getting the M150`s done now )

as an aside i am thinking of changing my ouverture to a master 7000 for asteic and room reasons, but i will need a beolink converter if my reading is correct ?

also, if i hook up my late fathers CD3300 to the 8000, will this be as good as a CDX(2)..?

then i can sell his master 3300 and vox 3000 on here ))

andy

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

andy — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:39:56 GMT

Peter

can you pm me his number please if thats ok

cheers

andy

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Peter — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:04:59 GMT

Not sure that Tim does a lot of repair work these days - it is also best to ring him rather than email.

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

andy — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:59:28 GMT

olly

thanks for that, my dining table now has 2 penta`s, 2 lab150`s and bits of cable everywhere, i shall finish it off when i get home!

i have sent Tim an email, but no reply as yet, guess he is busy fixing stuff !

andy

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

Step1 — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:38:53 GMT

The speakers work as active by the fact that the speaker output from the 8000 is attenuated then re-amplified by the penta amp! Not really ideal!

The mod I did is simple enough -

Prepare two lengths of wire with a DIN male on the end.. This will attach to the binding post of the speakers

remove the penta amp, but watch the DIN plug and the wires that screw to the binding posts - Also note polarity at this point I think there may be a ridge on one of the wires?

Now, with the amp removed, unscrew the plastic top - don't worry, you are not pulling it apart! Feed the amp wire out of the slot in the top cover and feed it through one of the horizontal gaps toward the rear of the unit, and attach a line din socket to this. Now, feed the wire you prepared earlier IN to the same gap, but make sure it passes through the small slot on the top cover of the amp where the original speaker wire entered. Now secure the top cover back in place and you should have the new speaker wires and the DIN plug for the display. When replacing top, make sure all wires feed neatly through that little slot without getting snagged.

Now proceed to refit the amp to the speakers. Before you do - just check those long rods are screwed into the speakers properly, as sometimes you can find one or two are loose! Back to the wires, pay attention to the polarity before securing!

Plug the DIN plugs together for Penta sound or disconnect and plug into other B&O using normal speaker leads for non Penta assistance :) The whole job shouldn't take too long :)

If you wanted a clean look you could potentially route the cables back down through the amps *maybe* but this would involve pulling the amp apart so I wouldn't recomend!

Of course, as described in the other thread you could always remove the amp and displays and sell these on ebay or store them, it all depends if you think you might need the amps again!

Funnily enough, I think the speakers look far nicer without amp module at all, but only keep mine becuase my main system is a 5500, and I like the displays! Of course, if I feel like giving my 6000, 8000 or soonish to be 6000Q ( :) ) a whirl then I can connect any of them to my Pentas at any time and it only takes 5 minutes :)

andy:

Step

couldnt find that thread....if i plug a standard 2 pin speaker lead from the master8000 into the speaker link of the pentalabs will it work the labs as vox`s ?

or if you could point me at the thread or just say how to run the lab`s as vox`s with dismanteling them, if its possible of course

cheers

andy

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

j0hnbarker — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:51:16 GMT

Tim has worked on lots of my stuff and I would recommend him to you. I would send everything to him. He did a cracking job on my BM8000 and BG8002.

I use Beovox Pentas with my 8000 system and I know you'll not be disappointed when everything is up and running :)

Re: Beosystem 8000....25 years late!

andy — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:28:19 GMT

ah, thanks JOhn, i had best get my spanner out then !!

i have sent Tim and email, is he the best person for the M150`s ?...i am cack handed at the best of times !

andy