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If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341741.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:02:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341741</guid><dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341741.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341741</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Paul Winn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. Century - Cds jump and skip when you turn the volume up &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is not my experience with the Century. Something must be wrong with yours...Are you sure you&amp;#39;ve released the transport screws &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341730.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:08:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341730</guid><dc:creator>pf85</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341730.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341730</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Griebel:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forgot to mention BeoPlayer (anybody using it?). There has been many updates since the initial version, but no significant improvement. On the contrary, the latest version is not even&amp;nbsp;compatible with Serenata since it does not allow new files to be added in the phone!?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are many other issues with this software, which is totally outdated and not user-frienly. I&amp;#39;m not even mentioning the BetNetMusic tool, which makes the software so slooow!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am surprised BeoPlayer still exists. I used it initially with my Beosound 5 but got fed up using a poor interface and coping with slow response times. Clearly, BeoPlayer was not B&amp;amp;Os finest hour...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341729.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:02:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341729</guid><dc:creator>pf85</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341729.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341729</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Griebel:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, on the even more recent BV 7-55 3D, the DVB-HD still takes 30 s to start!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agree on the irritant, however, in my view, B&amp;amp;O allows for two different concepts. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-One to have &amp;quot;everything built in&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;- the other one to purchase core function (i.e. panel) and then add DVB, BluRay etc separately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would vote for the second: B&amp;amp;O &amp;quot;core equipment&amp;quot; outlasts built-in peripheral equipment which has a higher technological turnover rate. In my view, best strategy to avoid product obsolesence and the irritants described above is to integrate these peripherals with PUC and control with Beo4 or Beo6.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341709.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:28:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341709</guid><dc:creator>Griebel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341709.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341709</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Forgot to mention BeoPlayer (anybody using it?). There has been many updates since the initial version, but no significant improvement. On the contrary, the latest version is not even&amp;nbsp;compatible with Serenata since it does not allow new files to be added in the phone!?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are many other issues with this software, which is totally outdated and not user-frienly. I&amp;#39;m not even mentioning the BetNetMusic tool, which makes the software so slooow!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341639.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:44:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341639</guid><dc:creator>Griebel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341639.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341639</wfw:commentRss><description>Well, on the even more recent BV 7-55 3D, the DVB-HD still takes 30 s to start!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341633.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:08:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341633</guid><dc:creator>madskp</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341633.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341633</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The startup time of the DVB-HD module. a half minute, really! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s defense i have read on these forums that it has been made better on the BV10 with af software update.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341632.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:06:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341632</guid><dc:creator>elephant</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341632.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341632</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Paul Winn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. My DVD1 - Total garbage&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the THREE (yes, count them) DVD1s I tried recently ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the HDR I had on loan from the dealer ... I could not get it to work consistently&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or it could not re-program me &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt; in the two weeks I had it&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and my lovely 5000 suite ... only because within 12 months of buying it B&amp;amp;O worked out the MCL was a dead-end and switched to ML&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it peeved me enough that I did not buy any B&amp;amp;O in the nineties [:&amp;#39;(]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341623.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:34:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341623</guid><dc:creator>Griebel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341623.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341623</wfw:commentRss><description>Completely agree. I also still use my BM1... for the linked rooms since the BM5 cannot be controlled if you have a BS5 connected.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;Again, this doesn&amp;#39;t make any sense to me!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341621.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:28:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341621</guid><dc:creator>DrDimitris</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341621.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341621</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I would personally put Beomedia1 on this list. Although i use it nealy every day, the capabilities of this thing are limited for a 2000 euro product at its launch. B&amp;amp;O has somehow accepted their failure by moving quickly to BM5, ignoring all the Beomedia1 customers...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341620.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:46:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341620</guid><dc:creator>Karel Uyttendaele</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341620.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341620</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BeoVision A5... Too late on the market... and incorporating CDI..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BeoSound 6&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All HDR devices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BeoVision 1-link only&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341608.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:30:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341608</guid><dc:creator>Tod Daniel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341608.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341608</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Ar yes I agree with Symmes, that was a Samsung player that looked identical to a Samsung player - now that was a total disgrace!A bit dishonest of B&amp;amp;O that one &amp;nbsp;not funny really is it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341606.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:55:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341606</guid><dc:creator>symmes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341606.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341606</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BeoSound 6? &amp;nbsp;NOW THAT ONE IS/WAS A DOG!!!!!! What has anybody ever said was good about it other than it came with a pair of A8&amp;#39;s?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341596.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:59:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341596</guid><dc:creator>Tod Daniel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341596.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341596</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BS8 is ICONIC!!! Nicest B&amp;amp;O for a long time but sooooooo over priced ;&amp;#39;(&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d love one but I know I can get awesome sounds from Pioneer studio monitors at half the price but hey... &amp;nbsp;Maybe id get a BS8 as a piece of art!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341591.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:49:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341591</guid><dc:creator>danezro</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341591.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341591</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hands down - Beocom 5 - more software updates than Windows Vista and still doesn&amp;#39;t work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t agree about the BEO5 or Beolab 4 as noted by others, both have their place in the B&amp;amp;O range.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What are the major B&amp;O product failures?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341589.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:41:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:341589</guid><dc:creator>Griebel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/341589.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=341589</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;TripEnglish:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These lists are going to be mostly subjective. The BeoSound 5 has been a big success and continues to pick up pace as the CD becomes less available. The same goes for the Beo5/6. It&amp;#39;s been a big hit with customers. I really can&amp;#39;t understand continuing to mix up the wheel after a few days of ownership. That strains credibility.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, of course, but again the goal is not to go against the B&amp;amp;O products, but to make them aware that they can be improved. I like both the BM5/BS5 and BEO5/6.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The BM5/BS5 has indeed be a success... but among convinced B&amp;amp;O product users. I&amp;#39;m not sure it convinced new non-B&amp;amp;O customers, unlike the BS8, which was bought by many iPhone owners.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding the BS5 and its wheels, with such a beautiful screen I don&amp;#39;t understand why it is not a touch screen, much more user-friendly and close to current and future standards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding the BC2, its technically limited, but the design is really great.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>