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Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

hfat — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:43:35 GMT

Thank You, beobuddy.

I now found it.

hfat

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:47:45 GMT

hfat:

@beobuddy: which manual did you take the pic DVI installation from?

From the bs2 mkIII on page 28.

To use the DVI you have to have at least 15.2/16.2 software in your system.

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

hfat — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:24:29 GMT

Hi,

Great that you've got it working.

@beobuddy: which manual did you take the pic DVI installation from? I've looked through all my BS2/BV4 manuals and could not find it.

hfat

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Marcus — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 04:17:39 GMT

Thanks for all help!

The problem is now sloved! I used a Mini displayport to DVI adapter and a DVI-I - DVI-I cable. Works perfect after a few adjustments and settings.

Once again, thanks to everybody for your help!

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:51:25 GMT

Marcus:

So it's impossible from my MacMini to use the VGA? But if I would try with a PC with "real" VGA-output it should work?

If I'm right, MacMini has only a digital video output. I have a Macmini from 2008 and is one latest with both digital and analog video. My Macmini has a DVI connection instead of the newer and smaller digital video connector.

Do you have another source with a hdmi connector? If've used the DVI for both the Dreambox 8000 (DVI) and a Playstation 3 (hdmi).

The only catch was to have a source with the right resolution at the start.

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Marcus — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:27:51 GMT

Thanks! Actually I have a Panasonic IR-remote so i tried. And the TV changes source 3 times, and it's clearly different when I get back to the source that is selected when pressing PC on my Beo4. The two other sources are completly black and this one is more darkgrey.

So i think that my BS2 are selecting the right source but the TV will not accept the signal. I connected my MacMini via HDMI-HDMI to my old SONY LCD-TV and changed the output reslotion to 720p, but still no picture.

I guess I should try to go from Mini Displayport to DVI and use the same DVI-DVI cable?

What do you guys think?

It's so annoying that I can't get the computer picture up on the TV. That's the only thing missing in my new living room :-)

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Marcus — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:09:02 GMT

Thanks for your reply!

So it's impossible from my MacMini to use the VGA? But if I would try with a PC with "real" VGA-output it should work?

I have now tried to set the same settings for SLOT 2 instead (The TV's on the wall so I was not 100% sure that the DVI-card were in SLOT 1 or 2).

Still no picture.

Just to make eveything clear, this is my setup:

BeoVision 4-50 MKIII / BeoSystem 2 MKIII, Mac Mini early 2011.

I have connected it as follow: MacMini (HDMI) - to a HDMI to DVI Adapter - And up to the screen with a high-end KRAMER DVI-I cable. I have not connected anything else (no sound).

In the settings i have tried to map it as follow:

VGA-input PDP Slot 1 PDP Slot 2

VGA/YPbPr None DVI-D

CVBS on CVBS on CVBS on

Decoder ---------- Camera

And under the connections menu:

CAMERA

PC (DVI)

Of course I have tried vice versa with SLOT 1, 2

And i press the PC button on my Beo4 = TV changes to source PC, no picture (all black).

Can it be because I am using a DVI-I cable instead of DVI-D? Probably not?

Or could it be that my DVI-card is broken or not installed correctly? I thought they were installed from the factory on the MKIII?

Thanks a lot for trying to help me out :-)

Best Regards,

Marcus

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:58:58 GMT

Manual selecting input panel:

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

hfat — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:51:25 GMT

Hi,

Have a look at the spec: http://www.bang-olufsen.com/product-archive?ProductType=BeoVision&ProductName=BeoVision%204%20-%2050%20EU

could this be your problem? Pixel count1,049,088 pixels (1366 × 768 × R, G, B)

Try 720p resolution.

hfat

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:46:20 GMT

And when connecting the HDMI-DVI lead. Make sure that the resolution supplied by the source, is 576p, 720p or1080i.

Supplying 1080p will not work.

Beneath the frame on the left lower corner, there are some panasonic switches and a infrared eye for panasonic remotes.

By repeatingly presses on the input switch, the panel must give a picture from the DVI.

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:39:42 GMT

Make sure that the DVI is installed in slot 1. B&O instructions let you install the DVI module in slot 2.

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Beobuddy — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:32:56 GMT

Marcus:

I have now tried everything... I can not even get a PC/MAC signal via the VGA port!

This is correct. The VGA input on the bs2 is pure analog (RGB) and doesn't contain any digital VESA information.

The difference with a computermonitor is, that a computer and monitor/LCD/Plasma communicate through VGA. The computer recognizes the panel by the data supplied by the monitor.

This was the reason why the first releases of the Beomaster 5 didn't work with the "older" bs2 and BV5.

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Marcus — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:04:28 GMT

Hi!

I am getting tiered of all this testing ...

I have now tried everything... I can not even get a PC/MAC signal via the VGA port!

When I do as discribed in the manual (Connection via HDMI-DVI direct to the display) and under the connections menu entered Camera (PC/DVI) I dont get any picture when pressing PC on Beo4.

I have a Mac Mini with both Mini display-port and HDMI out so I connected my Mac to an SONY LCD-screen (Mini DP-VGA) and my BV4-50 via HDMI-DVI. The funny thing is that my Mac finds the display and I am able to change resolution but still no picture att all. (I can see the picture on the SONY LCD and have set my mac to mirror the displays.

Any ideas? PLEASE

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

Marcus — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:40:20 GMT

Hi!

I tried both now... On my BS2 I can get PC(DVI) on both Camera and Decoder in the settings. Depending on what i define in the service menu. But still no picture. Maybe my HDMI to DVI converter does something, I don't think so but that is the only reason I can find.

I guess I need to try with a cable that's made HDMI-DVI instead of using a DVI-DVI cable with a converter as I do now?

Re: BeoVision 4-50 Service Menu settings

hfat — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 04:58:52 GMT

HI,

I think you have no choice. I simply don't know if the documentation is wrong or it's imply a case of different SW versions. If you want to access your PC via PC command, you have to use the source definition BS2 offers. On my BS2 PC(DVI) is offered on the decoder socket, dispite of the fact that the manual states ist's available on Camera socket. In addition to your source definition SPDIF3 socket is assigned to the HD source socket. So you could use digital sound if your PC offers.

Stereo sound goes via the socket you define for your PC(DVI) source. So if you choose camera, you have to plug in your sound cable to the camera socket. If you choose decoder socket, you have to plug your stereo sound into decorder via a scart adapter. In both cases you don't have a video signal on the BS2 socket you use. If you can connect a video signal (your PC offers DVI and Video out), you could even link your PC source to other rooms (in SD quality).

hfat