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Re: Criminals!

Michael — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:27:30 GMT

Rich:
Søren Hammer:

TripEnglish:

Copyright laws are so murky it's safer to just sit in a room and sing quietly to yourself.

Be careful when you do that, you break the copyright law if you sing other peoples' compsitions!

Not if you've purchased the sheet music!

Technically NOT if other people are listening. Unless you can prove it was within an education/instructional setting at a registered institution you can expect SWAT teams to crash into the room from the rafters.

Re: Criminals!

stotty1111 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:50:09 GMT

better a noisless hum, then the skys the limit!

tony

Re: Criminals!

Rich — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:47:13 GMT

Søren Hammer:

TripEnglish:

Copyright laws are so murky it's safer to just sit in a room and sing quietly to yourself.

Be careful when you do that, you break the copyright law if you sing other peoples' compsitions!

Not if you've purchased the sheet music!

Re: Criminals!

Søren Hammer — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:37:43 GMT

TripEnglish:

Copyright laws are so murky it's safer to just sit in a room and sing quietly to yourself.

Be careful when you do that, you break the copyright law if you sing other peoples' compsitions!

Re: Criminals!

beocool — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:56:38 GMT

tournedos:

In Finland, making "a few" copies for "private use" is legal, if the original is acquired legally and you do not need to circumvent any technical protection to do the copy - this means even if you borrow the record from a library!

Blank media sold in Finland carries a fee which is supposed to compensate this for the artists. The copyright mafia keeps trying to extend this fee to hard disks, smart phones, and anything else that could possibly ever hold some sort of digital content.

Pretty much the same in Holland. One of the things I don't get in the Dutch law that it's legal to make copies even if you are not the rightful owner of the content.

Re: Criminals!

TripEnglish — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:18:51 GMT

Re: Criminals!

Dillen — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:02:39 GMT

Same in Denmark as in Finland.
We also have the media fees so we buy blank CD-R's etc. in Germany, which is perfectly legal

Martin

Re: Criminals!

Rich — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:35:00 GMT

This of course is nothing new. When I was in college in the 1980's and started buying LPs and copying them onto cassettes, I was, strictly speaking, breaking the law. In the United States, it was illegal to buy an LP and make a recording of it on cassette so that you could:

a) keep the LP pristine by doing daily listening to the cassette instead of the record

b) listen to the cassette in your car

c) listen to the cassette on a walkman

Generally speaking, I would buy a record, record it three times (for home, car, and walkman), and stick it on the shelf until one of the cassettes was lost or damaged. Each time I recorded my own record for my own use, I was breaking the law.

Re: Criminals!

Sevilsivle — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:40:07 GMT

But in Germany it is illegal to rip any CDs/DVDs that are copy protected.

As often in German law the 7 copies are not defined as such but were mentioned in a court ruling which is then generally taken as a gudeline in similar cases.

Tim

Re: Criminals!

tournedos — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:39:10 GMT

In Finland, making "a few" copies for "private use" is legal, if the original is acquired legally and you do not need to circumvent any technical protection to do the copy - this means even if you borrow the record from a library!

Blank media sold in Finland carries a fee which is supposed to compensate this for the artists. The copyright mafia keeps trying to extend this fee to hard disks, smart phones, and anything else that could possibly ever hold some sort of digital content.

Re: Criminals!

kallasr — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:27:40 GMT

Up to seven copies for private use (that includes close friends!).

Ralf

Re: Criminals!

Kokomo — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 06:17:48 GMT

Sevilsivle:

So it seems that Beosound 5 owners are all criminals. At least in the UK. Or have I misunderstood something?

Legal change for personal CD ripping (link to BBC News)

regards

Tim

Hi Tim, No you haven't misunderstood.

Such 'ripping' has been illegal in the UK for many years and the the government now plans, amongst other things, to make such personal copying legal.

So all those of you in the UK can now sleep more easily in their beds at night!

I'm in Spain and don't know what the law is on this here.

What's the position in Germany? Is such copying legal?

Criminals!

Sevilsivle — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:11:40 GMT

So it seems that Beosound 5 owners are all criminals. At least in the UK. Or have I misunderstood something?

Legal change for personal CD ripping (link to BBC News)

regards

Tim