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Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Hungedu — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:58:11 GMT

I'm not too much into the 3D effect since there are so few movies available with it, but the new BV7-55 does have an improved panel with a higher number of LED lights. I just ordered mine in the USA to replace my 10-year old, 32 inch Avant. 3D or not, this is going to be a huge change in my home theater experience!

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

malcolm welborn — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:44:24 GMT

hiim at the age saw cinemascope todd ao and also 3 d in cinemas 3 d then was the same as now in principle things shooting out of the screen and had to wear glasses it failed. i watched football in 3 d just to see if different sorry will stick to hd

malcolm

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

John — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:00:41 GMT

I have studied 3D vision in the past and the cut out effect is quite common with photographs and there are psychological reasons why it occurs. It is not inevitable but it is more noticeable on some scenes. I think glasses will always be needed with the present systems as the left eye and right eye images need to be separated.

I have seen Holograms where the cut out effect was absent and the solid effect was remarkable. It was some time ago and there were two problems that limited the entertainment value of demonstrations I saw. The first which might now have been solved is that the effect was monochrome. The second was that the result was static. To get round this will be much more tricky. There is one feature of holograms that is very different from stereo photographs and similar is that glasses are not needed.

I suppose that if there was enough determination it could be possible but the bandwidth requirement would be rather intimidating and the resolution of the recorder would need to be high. Being jaundiced about it I wonder if it would be cheaper to ask the performers to come to ones home.

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

moxxey — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:04:22 GMT

shinobi52:

Beovision 7-55 3D is launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jTQVI_4J4

It's these kind of launches that, I don't know why, make me cringe. "you're the first person to see the picture in the UK!". Who cares? "Exclusive interview with Derek Martin" Pardon? And hearing his interview, I'm thinking I'm associating myself with the wrong brand! Celebrity Coach Trip? Good lord. I need to lie in a darkened room for a while.

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

bsantini — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:47:41 GMT

The answer is Ultra HD and Ultra 3D HD

Bno has no choice.

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

shinobi52 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 05:10:21 GMT

Beovision 7-55 3D is launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jTQVI_4J4

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

.......... — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 06:31:53 GMT

Does anyone know if the glasses will be branded Bang & Olufsen?

Will there be anything special about them? Unique functions? Styling?

I'm not sold on 3D either to be honest but it is a nice novelty I suppose.

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Hardwriter — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 06:23:53 GMT

I heard on the BBC recently that in the US - which has had this latest revival of 3D the longest - the numbers are falling for 3D movie attendances. Seems that a lot of movie-goers don't think its worth paying the extra couple of bucks. It's too soon to say that the boom has turned to bust already, but I think the consumer wants more than just pop-out effects - they also want a good movie and storyline. If that does not come 3D will fade away as it has in the past.

That said, B&O has to offer a 3D product if people are demanding it.

I don't know if that is correct or not

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

elephant — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 06:19:45 GMT

Electrified:
Isn't Avatar 100 percent CGI?

no, there were humans in some of the shots

<= right click on this and select View/Open Image to see one from IMDB

most the production stills are of the aliens that were CGIs of those actors.

This wikipedia link explains the mixed approach to filming:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)#Filming

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Electrified — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 06:09:24 GMT

I haven't watched Alice in Wonderland, nor Avatar.

Isn't Avatar 100 percent CGI?

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

elephant — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:03:29 GMT

Flappo:
The whole effect is just dreadful , it's like watching cardboard cut outs walking stiffly

Electrified:
I agree that the 3D effect is like cardboard figure cut-outs.

I think that varies by the movie and how it was made.

For example, I have seen that effect on the latest "Alice in Wonderland" and I believe it is caused by the film going through a post-production 3D phase where the 3D is generated from a 2D using effects processing.

On the other hand "Avatar" was filmed in 3D and is really submersive.

My latest 3D foray was the latest "Pirates of the Caribbean" and that was somewhere between those two experiences - the distraction I felt was that the camera was not framing the scenes properly ... often people would move off camera in 3D and suddenly their heads would disappear - somehow this was more disturbing than in 2D

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Electrified — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:15:55 GMT

Paul Winn:
WOW Electrified, that is one nice television to buy. BV10-32 definately my ALL TIME FAVOURITE!!!

Hehe, it's just a telly. However, I do consider it the nicest of the ugly abominations that is a telly. It has pretty good audio for speech too, which was something I went looking for.

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Tod Daniel — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:03:37 GMT

WOW Electrified, that is one nice television to buy. BV10-32 definately my ALL TIME FAVOURITE!!!

Yep I really see 3D as nothing more than a marketing ploy. Must admit, I hang out with a young crowd and 3D does not seem to interest any of them!

Halogram TV, now that's a different matter :)

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

355f — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:32:31 GMT

Flappo:

I watched the tennis on bbc hd 3d today - the much hyped live transmission ( waited ages for it - it was supposed to be the second coming - almost ) , all I can say is , if this is the future of home entertainment , forget it.

Personally I think B&O going 3d isn't such a great idea after all. The whole effect is just dreadful , it's like watching cardboard cut outs walking stiffly and having to wear glasses just reinforces the feeling of visual claustrophobia. It just looks and feels weird .

With flatscreen sales falling badly over all brands 3d was needed to develop some sales, I agree its dire!- come to think of it so is LCD TV but the manufacturers might as well milk it for all its worth before OLED becomes reality and gets rid of LCD for good!

Re: B&O going 3D - good or bad idea ?

Electrified — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 06:19:35 GMT

Maybe this will sound like I'm a technophobe, but so be it.

As a general rule, I don't like tv's. I just moved on from a 14" (!!!) 4:3 CRT that I still thought was too much of a piece of a furniture. I have now bought the BV10-32" and screen size wise it's pretty good. I don't like huge tellies, and I don't like 3D. I don't watch too many movies, and I agree that the 3D effect is like cardboard figure cut-outs. I don't want to don chavish glasses to watch something, and I really don't feel "immersed" in any way, form or fashion.

100hz, 200hz, 400hz, I really don't care at all. I don't even know what the 10-32 is. I don't care about being able to connect a huge variety of stuff to it either. I use a telly for news and stupid series/shows to run in the background while I'm on my computer. Often I'm wearing headphones (on my computer). 3D on tellies is like having several driver units in earphones. Not only do I not see any advantages, it introduces disadvantages, including poorer sound/picture quality (respectively), and a higher price point in the process.