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Re: Oled

DrDimitris — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:41:46 GMT

tournedos:

DrDimitris:

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The top 2 comments cracked me up

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Re: Oled

tournedos — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:36:40 GMT

DrDimitris:

All these future aspects brings to my mind THIS AWSOME VIDEO. Enjoy.

The top 2 comments cracked me up

Re: Oled

DrDimitris — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:15:00 GMT

All these future aspects brings to my mind THIS AWSOME VIDEO. Enjoy.

Re: Oled

mawheele — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:50:23 GMT

I think it unlikely.... I would bet we'll never see one.

OLED is achieving good yields at smaller glass sizes. Unfortunately, B&O has departed the smaller screen market at the current time only offering 32" and above. B&O would do a beautiful kitchen/bedroom OLED set that would sell extremely well with a 21-24" display size if they set their minds to it.

In the larger sizes, the advancement of standard LED displays is seeing it beat OLED out of the market IMOP. The broader industry and demand for display glass is demanding tighter pixel density which is being faster achieved on the standard display technology. Added to this, picture quality is being advanced more through higher performance picture/sound engines.

If I were buying a new TV now with a 1-2 year view, get the best 2D TV you can buy at this moment.

Its funny, but seeing the new Nintendo 3DS, makes me very confident that in 5-6 years time, we will transition to new 3D sets that don't require glasses. The current crop are great prototypes that demonstrate the potential, but the requirement for glasses ultimately make them 'test beds.'

I'm also sure that TV sets will double in resolution in that time down to the fact pixel density will be possible in these glass sizes and the display engines will be capable of processing and upscaling that level of data. Look out for 3840x2048 resolution displays. Added to that we will all hopefully have 50-100MB to our houses that will enable us to receive the quality of programming at this level.

Thats my crystal balls 2 cents.

Re: Oled

TripEnglish — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:35:47 GMT

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/26/scientists-improve-blue-oled-efficiency-dont-promise-everlasti/

Apparently we've still got a ways to go.

Re: Oled

TripEnglish — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:24:34 GMT

I don't think that color deterioration will be an unknown. It never really was with Plasmas, it just wasn't advertised (for obvious reasons). The savvy consumer could easily tell what the fundamental strengths and weaknesses of the products were.

Possibly another reason to to charge ahead with larger OLEDs. To this day I have people who are still concerned about technology issues that were only present in the very earliest versions of the technology. If OLEDs really start to explode on the retail scene and these sorts of defects start to get widely reported it could set adoption back that much more.

Re: Oled

pf85 — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:45:21 GMT

TripEnglish:

So basically I think we'll start to see sizes in the 30s & 40s in the next 3-5 years, but it could be 7-10 before they're supplanting LCDs and Plasmas.

Tend to agree with TripEnglish, however speed of development and learning curves tend to be estimated on the conservative side... One question, what about OLED longterm (colour fading) performance? Will we find out 3-4 years after starting to use OLED screens ?

Re: Oled

TripEnglish — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:41:29 GMT

As an electronics guy I'm excited to see OLED grow up and infiltrate the full spectrum of sizes, but as a salesperson, I'm all too familiar with the barriers that a technology like this presents.

I started selling B&O about a year or two before the BeoVision 4 came out. This was right as Philips was advertising their wall-mounted 42" plasma. I believe the price was around $15k. Maybe higher. Clearly this was where the market would head and more brands released more TVs at a rapid rate and the prices fell faster than I could have expected.

HOWEVER! What often blew my sale more than the price, was the size! Going to larger screen sizes in a new format meant that all of the expensive furniture that people had purchased to hide their giant tube TVs would go to waist. People just weren't willing to part so if they did buy a flat screen it was a tiny one. That or it went over the fireplace.

So when we talk about TVs that will start to "cover entire walls" I think that I would gladly throw my art into the yard to accommodate it, but most clients will be looking to pop a new TV right into the spot where the old one was with, perhaps, a modest increase in size. This means that the price premium the OLED will likely carry in its first few years on the market won't be enough to get people to upgrade away from the already ultra-thin edge-lit LCDs.

So basically I think we'll start to see sizes in the 30s & 40s in the next 3-5 years, but it could be 7-10 before they're supplanting LCDs and Plasmas.

Re: Oled

Chris — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:22:42 GMT

When you think where we were just 10 years ago(Avant etc), i give it less than another 10 years before panels are "applied" to a wall etc.

The object that was a TV will no longer exist as an object in your room.

Re: Oled

Hildebrand — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:58:33 GMT

Sony's professional OLED monitors (the 17"/25" BVM-E170/E250) are being released 2011 I believe July and May respectively in Japan.

Seems like Samsung and LG are talking 2013 for initial consumer models to be coming to market.

Re: Oled

Puncher — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:04:06 GMT

Not aware of anyone yet.

I imagine B&O are reliant on their screen partners (Samsung & Panasonic), I'd be surprised if the panel maker didn't solely sell it for a year or so before letter customers repackage it though.

Oled

koning — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:47:28 GMT

Are there 40 inch oled televisions (non) B&O already?

Will there be a oled television from B&O in the next 1 a 2 years.