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Re: New products

Evan — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:09:36 GMT

auclutch:

do you think they will ever come out with Noise Cancelling headphones? I've been using the Quiet Comfort series headphones from Bose for years now but would love to stay within the family~ the form 2 and the a8's just do not block enough ambient noise on the plane.

I heard they were in the pipeline....

Re: New products

auclutch — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:29:16 GMT

do you think they will ever come out with Noise Cancelling headphones? I've been using the Quiet Comfort series headphones from Bose for years now but would love to stay within the family~ the form 2 and the a8's just do not block enough ambient noise on the plane.

Re: New products

jk1002 — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:39:37 GMT

I wish they focus more on music then on video products. For me it is easier to spend big bucks on an audio system then on a TV, most movies are rubbish to begin with, doesn't help watching them on a 40K$ television.

That said, the audio market seems to be more stable then video. Who knows that curves video will take, online streaming in the US is growing, Amazon came on board as well last week or so offering free streaming of 500 or so titles with their "prime" free shippng service. But that is all DRM protected crap, hard to play in that segment at this point, yet it seems this is where the future lies.

With music things seem stable, DRM is gone, Ipod/Iphone is here. We may see a new format here and there but to me a company like B&O should be able to spend more of their R&D money there.

Re: New products

Harry2008 — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:38:37 GMT

TripEnglish:

Harry2008:

9) BeoCenter 3 (with Blu-Ray support)

10) Beosound 5 with integrated cd

(Unfortunately both just a wish)

We will not be moving backwards.

I know that we should look forward. I just think that there is a (long?) intermediate period in which multiple sources for music/video will co-exists. Maybe I am wrong, and of course I am not aware of units sold versus cost to add such functionality, but it is just what I could use very well for the next few years and would not mind to pay more if B&O was offering this as a BTO option.

I can imagine that the situation in the US is different, but we do not have things like netflix, on the other hand we do have Spotify . But I like classical and non mainstream/alternative music, which is not that easily available on Spotify either (yet).

Re: New products

Flappo — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:18:34 GMT

Must say I'm quite excited by the arrival of some new Tv's.

The 7 is getting a bit long in the tooth tbh.

I would like something like a 10 but w/ better speakers and more hdmi's.

Maybe even a thunderbolt connection to replace the whole lot with one tiny simple little connection.. - that explains the whole intel collaboration maybe ??

hmm...

Re: New products

koning — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:45:52 GMT

Can you tell us more about the beovision 11.

Re: New products

TripEnglish — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:07:38 GMT

Harry2008:

9) BeoCenter 3 (with Blu-Ray support)

10) Beosound 5 with integrated cd

(Unfortunately both just a wish)

We will not be moving backwards.

Re: New products

Harry2008 — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:45:07 GMT

BeoFab:

OK, now for real. These are my best educated guesses/hints for the 11. Please Roger confirm... don't hide.

1) Beo 6 (launched already)

2) Beovision 11

3) Beovision 4 - 85 3D

4) Beosystem 4

5) Beonet

6) Beovox 2

7) Beosound 8 XL

8) Beosound 5 Encore

9) ............................

10)...........................

11)...........................

(fill in the blanks with your best hint/guess/clue)

3) Product was already mentioned at a dealer site (Dutch), so I presume it is reasonable to be expected somewhere in 11. Price stated was starting at € 41.000....

9) BeoCenter 3 (with Blu-Ray support)

10) Beosound 5 with integrated cd

(Unfortunately both just a wish)

Re: New products

Harry2008 — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:11:47 GMT

soundproof:

Film worth looking at.

http://www.meridian-audio.com/static/sooloos/

Interesting movie and it was informing to have a look at the product range. Some remarks:

Compared to the BS5 a different approach in browsing/finding/selecting your music. In general basic music player functionality is equal, lot of extended fine-tuning (which obvious has taken a lot of time to tweak and make functional from the vendor) is build in the Sooloos.
- It is cleary more flexible; on the other hand, who is going to add all the additional metadata? I currently already need a lot of time to collect the proper metadata for MP3/Flac files on the BM5
- It actually underpins my earlier expressed view that the BS5 should offer some more selection capabilities and the software for the TV should be extended to support a much broader way to construct a play list.
Sooloos offers more ways to control the system (Mac and Windows software, all the I-things, the Sooloos it self); which is quite nice compared to the limited support for the BM5 (at least on a Mac)
What I like at the Sooloos is the capability to play/import your own CD's (a feature terrible lacking on the BS5/BM5 in my opinion) and a broader support of codex's
The system is not great looking from my point of view
Pricing (which clearly places this system in a different league compared to the BS5/BM5)
- Control 15 (€ 6.450)
- twinstore (2x 1Tb, € 3.500)
- Media Core 200 (€ 2.500) (alternative to the Control 15 without the screen and controllable via iPhone/iPad)

Re: New products

elephant — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:17:13 GMT

soundproof:

Film worth looking at.
http://www.meridian-audio.com/static/sooloos

A very interesting and relevant clip ... but probably too complicated for a lazy sod like myself

Last night I watched a performance of "Carmen" on 'sTVdio' and when it finished I wanted to listen to some of my favourite tracks, so I went to Philippe's LinkPlayer, selected PLEX, and then the iTunes plug-in ... and using the Beo4 I could find one of my two full recordings of "Carmen" but *not* the one I wanted ... sooooo frustrating

Re: New products

Alex — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:43:40 GMT

soundproof:

B&O doesn't need new products as much as it needs consistent messages about what they are up to, and what they desire to do for their customers.

The music industry is now ready to deliver 24bit/96kHz files through the dreaded unmentionable world's largest music store - they are going to make copies of the studio masters, before they are dithered for CDs, and sell these straight to customers.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/22/24.bit.music/index.html

Would be nice if B&O products could handle those files with ease.

I want excellence from B&O that engages me, and enthralls my friends. The BL5s do it - a number of acquaintances and people who've gotten in touch for a demo have ended up buying BL5s after listening to mine. Those speakers deliver unlimited engaging excellence to surprised ears. Hint-hint, they were launched in 2003. What's next?

It's not a steady stream of new products plucked out of the air that's going to bring customers into B&O stores, but rather a steady message from B&O about what they were placed on this earth to do for people - and how they intend to do this with greater punch and delivery than anyone else within the category.

Is it a furniture company?

A design company?

A state of the art audio-visual company with brilliantly shaped sculptural products - ready to bring you beyond the next thing?

Film worth looking at.
http://www.meridian-audio.com/static/sooloos/

Totally agree with you RE the 'products which engage you' part - B&O have only really introduced one speaker since the BeoLab 5 which blew me away - the BeoLab 3. They really, really need to look at the sonics of their product lineup which is generally lacking IMO. I haven't heard the 6002 or the 8002, but if they sound the same as the 6000 and 8000 as B&O insist, then that'd be a mild dissappointment at best (I'm not a fan of either, I find them both really quite boring and unexciting to listen to).

I know this isn't the angle a lot of B&O's customers come at it from, but it's an angle nonetheless, and one B&O should be addressing. B&O have introduced some pretty groundbreaking TVs in the last 2-3 years in terms of picture quality, why can't they do the same with their speaker lineup?

TripEnglish:

Well at the rate we're going we'll all have a chance to be CEO in the coming years. So SP will be able to put his theory to the test.

Re: New products

TripEnglish — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:33:13 GMT

Well at the rate we're going we'll all have a chance to be CEO in the coming years. So SP will be able to put his theory to the test.

Re: New products

northswede — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:02:35 GMT

soundproof:

It's not a steady stream of new products plucked out of the air that's going to bring customers into B&O stores, but rather a steady message from B&O about what they were placed on this earth to do for people - and how they intend to do this with greater punch and delivery than anyone else within the category.

So true, find your why!
It's not nessisery what you do, but how you do it...

Re: New products

soundproof — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:19:31 GMT

B&O doesn't need new products as much as it needs consistent messages about what they are up to, and what they desire to do for their customers.

The music industry is now ready to deliver 24bit/96kHz files through the dreaded unmentionable world's largest music store - they are going to make copies of the studio masters, before they are dithered for CDs, and sell these straight to customers.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/22/24.bit.music/index.html

Would be nice if B&O products could handle those files with ease.

I want excellence from B&O that engages me, and enthralls my friends. The BL5s do it - a number of acquaintances and people who've gotten in touch for a demo have ended up buying BL5s after listening to mine. Those speakers deliver unlimited engaging excellence to surprised ears. Hint-hint, they were launched in 2003. What's next?

It's not a steady stream of new products plucked out of the air that's going to bring customers into B&O stores, but rather a steady message from B&O about what they were placed on this earth to do for people - and how they intend to do this with greater punch and delivery than anyone else within the category.

Is it a furniture company?

A design company?

A state of the art audio-visual company with brilliantly shaped sculptural products - ready to bring you beyond the next thing?

Film worth looking at.
http://www.meridian-audio.com/static/sooloos/

Re: New products

kai — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:05:31 GMT

Interesting points Roger I agree with what you are saying, let's just hope the new CEO takes on board the history of bang & olufsen, I do feel sorry for the last ceo, he did a good job to get them back in profit. But times are Cushing and they need to change, what they have to be careful of is to get the price and product, fingers crossed :(